Penguins of Madagascar Guidelines for the PoM spot

Penguinangel posted on Jun 16, 2011 at 04:24PM
This spot has had a lot of different problems come and go in the year that I've been here, and I think that making some ground rules for the spot would be a good idea. Not to try and control everyone, just some basic ones to keep the spot from falling apart at the seams.

Now I'm not just gonna say here are the rules and everyone has to follow them, because I'm not in charge of you and that would be really unfair. Every single fan's opinion matters because every fan is an equal part of the PoM community here.

So, I really want everyone here to say what they think any basic guidelines should be. It could be how different images should be classified when you post them (fanart, screenshots, photos, wallpaper, icon), your opinion on OCs, on rpers, on off-topicness, or even if you just think this whole forum is a stupid idea (but PLEASE, if you're gonna say that, give me a GOOD reason why.)

Once we figure out what guidelines we want (if any) then I can add them up here.

1) All OC related posts are to be put at the Fans of PoM spot, not here.

2) No swearing, unless it's in an article.

3) No porn or (too) dirty language. Remember, there are some younger fans here.

4) No flaming

5) Classifications
a)Images
- Screenshots: Images taken directly from the show.
- Photos: Any editted screenshots or miscellaneous PoM pics (such as PoM merchandise) NO SCREENSHOTS, NO FANART
- Fanart: Any fan-made PoM related picture (OCs allowed ONLY IF more canon characters present then OCs AND no canonxOC pairings)
- Icon: Smaller PoM pics that can easily be used as a user icon
- Wallpaper: Generally larger pictures that could easily be used as a desktop back ground (Not just enlarged screenshots or fanart)

b) Wall can include:
- Information regarding a fan's status or activeness on the spot (getting medals, won't be active for some time, ect..)
- Information regarding the status of the spot itself (hitting certain numbers of fans, bringing up any problems we need to fix, ect..)
- Anything at all related to The Penguins of Madagascar

c) Wall can NOT include:
- Advertising for other spots/sites unless they are about The Penguins of Madagascar
- Anything not directly related to The Penguins of Madagascar, the fans of this spot, or the spot itself
- Any OC content

d) Fanpicks- Opinion based questions about PoM OR can be used for fan-picked contests (such as the presidential election).

e) Quiz- Real, proven facts about/from PoM and the staff of PoM.

6) Do not post more than 15 images in one day.

7) Act as you would at school or at work. Avoid overreacting over romance or making drama
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پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Penguinangel said…
Here's a couple guidlines I think should exist. I'll add more later. And I don't necessarily expect everyone to agree with all of them, so if you don't please tell me and give a reason why.

1) All OC pictures should be posted at the Fans of PoM spot.
2) Classifications of images
- Screenshots: Screenshots (duh XD)
- Photos: Any editted screenshots or miscellaneous PoM pics (such as PoM merchandise) NO SCREENSHOTS, NO FANART
- Fanart: Any fan-made PoM related picture
- Icon: Smaller PoM pics that can easily be used as a user icon
- Wallpaper: Generally larger pictures that could easily be used as a desktop back ground (Not just enlarged screenshots or fanart)
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک MaxTheCat said…
hmmm
How about a rule for the POM wall? I've read that you guys once said that only POM related posts should be posted. But lately I've seen on Candle_Fairy13 posts that you were ok with it, eventhough she already apologized, to post something not POM related. I'm a bit confused with this...

No really I just don't get it
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پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Colonelpenguin said…
hmmm
Actually just lay down the Ground rule of the rules nutting harsh or to offend the other Fanpopers.
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک LeonardFan said…
hmmm
Yeah it'd be quite unfair if the rules end up harming other fanpoppers.
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Penguinangel said…
Max: It's all because of what exactly it was. One of our most dedicated fans here got her account suspended, so of course people are going to be wondering what happened to her, and I personally think that the wall is the best place to talk about it to calm everyone down.

When they first made the wall we all kinda figured it would attract alot of spam, but that really cleared up the forums area. I think that talking about the fans themselves should be allowed in the wall, as long as it somehow affects the spot. Like, if someone's leaving for vacation for a couple of weeks I think they should be allowed to tell everyone that they'll be gone. And if someone maybe gets a medal for the PoM spot, they should be able to share their accomplishment.

What I don't think should be allowed on the wall is OC stuff because while it's talking about the fans, it's all made up, and there's a seperate spot for it. Also, news about a fan's life outside the computer and about other sites/spots should not be posted here.

Colonelpenguin: I'm sorry, what?

LeonardFan: That's why everyone get's to say what they think about individual rules before they actually become rules.

Everyone: Sorry if I'm getting things mixed up here and editting posts alot. My computer's running really really slow.
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پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک quasomeness said…
Yeah. There shouldn't be any mean comments to others. It's actually illegal in the U.S. Also, if anyone is mean to you, you should block or report the person.
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک LeonardFan said…
big smile
How about when a fan chooses to leave the POM spot forever, like what I'm about to do now, are we allowed to post on the POM wall?
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Penguinangel said…
LeonardFan: What?! Why? I mean, if it's because of this forum, if it's REALLY that bad, we can just forget about it! It was just an idea, I just wanted to see if any other fans agreed with me!
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک LeonardFan said…
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Calm down Angel :D. It was just an example. I was just in a hurry. Sorry for the commotion I caused...
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پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Penguinangel said…
DUDE! DON'T DO THAT! I seriously had tears forming over here! You know how horrible I'd feel if I found out that I chased away one of the fans here?! D:
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک LeonardFan said…
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Still I'm worried that this won't do anything to help alleviate the problem. There are some who are still hard headed and will ignore the rules. I'll give an example:

I post a pic not related to the POM spot, and you guys tell me not to put it there because it doesn't belong to POM. But somehow I don't give in because I don't care about your stupid rules and I post more than 30 pics. I'll just say to those who told me not to put POM related pics: "Whatyya gonna do about it?"

Sorry this has been bugging me for months. Probably there some fans here that think like this. I mean we can't just remove the pictures that he/she posted. It would be too tiring just to remove all those pics. And it will cause tension because we keep spamming the pictures he or she posted. We need to find a way to remove pics without spamming. Not everyone will follow what we said, they'll just ignore it and keep posting pics.

We really need to clean this club, remove all non-pom related pics etc. I've seen a post like this months ago, yet we did nothing. We just talked about it and then that's it, nothing else happened. No action was done.

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پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Metallica1147 said…
I agree with Angel 100 precent
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Penguinangel said…
I know, I keep seeing that myself. I really want to actually do something about it and I keep trying to, but I can't by myself. Trust me, I'd gladly take a couple of days to go through every individual post here and report everything that doesn't belong, but one person won't get it removed. I need a lot of people to want to help.

What I'm really hoping will happen is that the majority of the fans here who would follow and guidelines we set will do so, and then we can pick out individual problems and address those specific fans.

And if it's just plain old spam, obviously we'd just report it. If enough people take the time to report these things as they pop up, then we wouldn't have months of backed up spammy posts.
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Icicle1penguin said…
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YAY! I totally agree with you Angel. Duh. XD

@LeonardFan: I'll tell ya what we're gonna do about it! WE'RE GONNA SHUN YOU, Make fake accounts so we can spam the heck outta ya, Insult ya, (Julien: *like a chicken* MOOOCK MOCK MOCK MOOOCK!) Report ya, talk behind your back, report ya some more, report again, and get all smart! >:D

Jk! I'm not gonna do all that ('cept for the report stuff and mock). But I actually feel that way when I see someone like that. I don't wanna be mean, but people need to know what they're doing wrong.

"Why do we think we're right when we're dead wrong?" -Kris Allen XD

Really. But it's difficult to find out who's wrong and who's not. People say, "We have the right to do that!" Yes, correct. Free country and all. But ya don't have the right to hang a 'SCHOOL SUCKS' picture in school. :P It's wrong. Yesh.
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Penguinangel said…
Thanks, Icicle. :)

More guideline ideas:

3) No swearing, unless it's in an article. There's better ways to let out anger.
4) No porn or (too) dirty language. Kinda goes without saying, but we really should keep this place safe for younger fans.

Please guys, I really want to know what you all think of these ideas, and I wanna know all of your ideas. If no one says anything then this whole forum is pointless.
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک quasomeness said…
You know what? About the non-PoM related pictures, any pictures posted before this date should just be ignored. However, for any future unrelated photos, we should take some sort of action, which may include but isn't limited to, asking the person to remove it, flagging the photo as unrelated content, or talking to the person about unrelated photos and how it's not good for the spot.

Any unrelated photos (Eg. of OCs and no legit characters) should be put, for example, in the Fans of PoM spot instead of the mainstream Penguins of Madagascar spot.
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پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Penguinangel said…
Yeah, you're right. Not much we can do about the old stuff. But I'll be on an even closer watch for any non-PoM related pics now to hopefully keep the spot cleaner in the future.

I agree about the OCs too, but you already knew that. ;)
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک evviefoxx said…
I agree. It's not unreasonable, just proper blogging etiquette. I don't see why anyone should be offended if they're not guilty of the opposite.
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک SPKR689 said…
i totally agree altough i think you knew that from day one. Thats all I'll type cuz this laptop is a big meanie!!! DX
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک MaxTheCat said…
worried
Ahem I've only been here in the POM spot for a couple of days and the first thing I see here are OC's which is kind of disappointing because I really wanted to see pictures of the Penguins Skipper, Rico, Private and Kowalski and all the characters related to the show. To be honest I thought this place was the Penguins of Madagascar, not Own Characters of Madagascar. I accidentally stumbled upon one when I clicked on it.

I'm not decided yet but, If I see more OC's than the penguins taking over this place in the future... I might have to leave the POM fan spot forever. And if you guys ever see a goodbye letter in my profile, that means that I have left already. Let me be just clear about one thing, I'm a fan of POM, not OC's.

Sorry if I hardly knew any of ya, but it's how life goes, nothing lasts forever, it's going to be heartbreaking to leave this place. But sometimes you just have to deal with it.
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پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Penguinangel said…
^That post, that post right there, is exactly why I keep bringing up these issues. I don't want old fans to leave here because of new fans taking over and trashing the place, and I don't want new fans to leave because all they can see is the problems when they first arrive.

So, I guess I'm gonna put "No OC related posts" as rule #1 then. Everyone cool with that? It's been an issue for awhile and all of the fans (besides the few OC posters) seem to agree that it's ruining the spot.
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک LeonardFan said…
big smile
It's already hard enough that old fans keep leaving this spot now you're going to leave too Max?

So far from what I know, we already lost ThatDarnHippo, Annacrombie, dsprtpenguin, Jedipenguin., skipperluvs, monsy and just a few days ago we lost madam_viera. I never even knew most of these people when they left.

I know more have left than I mentioned, I just hope this spot improves, up to the point where no fan is permanently leaving.
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پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Penguinangel said…
^If you look waaay back in the forums area, you'll see a section that's just filled with Goodbye forums. That really crushed me back then...

5) Wall can include:
- Information regarding a fan's status or activeness on the spot (getting medals, won't be active for some time, ect..)
- Information regarding the status of the spot itself (hitting certain numbers of fans, bringing up any problems we need to fix, ect..)
- Anything at all related to The Penguins of Madagascar

Wall can NOT include:
- Advertising for other spots/sites unless they are about The Penguins of Madagascar
- Anything not directly related to The Penguins of Madagascar, the fans of this spot, or the spot itself
- Any OC content

That work for the wall? Anyone have any objections or agree? Please, I really have to know.
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک LeonardFan said…
big smile
I agree with this 100% Angel. I'm fine with this rule. Hmm would this count as non Pom related?

link
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پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک MaxTheCat said…
^Personally I don't think that fan art is POM worthy. Well for me it isn't...By the way, I agree with what Penguinangel said.
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پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Penguinangel said…
I don't think that should be here.

Alright, so I'll put the wall rule up there. And what about #2,3, and 4? You know, I think I'm just gonna put them up there for now, and if a bunch of people object later I can just edit them out.

Also, for the wall, should advertising be allowed for forums and articles?
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک amiraPOMvers said…
Yeah i'm agree 1000%!
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک MaxTheCat said…
How about forums like these, is it ok with you? I mean sometimes we have to talk about other things aside from POM.

link

I may object non pom related pics in the Picture section, but in the forums, I think this one is fine. Just something I wanted to talk about.
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک MaxTheCat said…
And as for advertising if there are any news of POM as well as the upcoming movie. I think advertising it would be fine. Just keep it related in the POM world.

Hey wait something came up, how would you react if Alex, Marty, Gloria and Melman pictures were posted here. I mean they were in Madagascar movies, but they didn't appear in the series. So does that make them Pom related?
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Penguinangel said…
I am 100% ok with that forum. In fact, I encourage fans to go there. Since it's a forum, it only ever takes up one little spot in the updates, and it makes a place here where we can just talk as friends and hopefully become a closer community like we used to be.

I know that would be fine, but what about advertising for a fanfic you just posted here, or a new game in the forums area? I mean, it relates to the spot, but it is already there in the updates.

There IS a Madagascar spot, so I think those pics should be posted there instead, unless they also have the penguins/lemurs in it.

amira: Thank you! :)
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پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک MaxTheCat said…
big smile
Then what should we do if a fan still refuses to ignore the rules? Should we ban his/her account alltogether?

And I think you missed some rules for the fanpicks and links :D
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Penguinangel said…
I think that we should first go onto the posted material and ask them to take it down and give them the link to this forum so they can read the rules. If they don't take it down within 24 hours we should report the content and send them a private message with the link to this forum. If they continue to ignore us and the rules after 3 seperate posts and warnings, then I think we should report them.

Fanpicks- Opinion based questions about PoM OR can be used for fan-picked contests (such as the presidential election).

Quiz- Have to be about real, proven facts about/from PoM and the staff of PoM.

Links- Links to another PoM related site or spot.

I think that links, questions, and videos kinda go without saying though. Just have to be PoM related, not even gonna bother putting those up top.
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پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک MaxTheCat said…
big smile
How about for those fanpicks like:

Which show would be best paired for POM?

Spongebob
Bubble Guppies
etc.

Hmmm it seems I'm the only one here who keeps replying to this forum :/
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پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Penguinangel said…
I don't really care for those picks myself, but I don't see anything wrong with it, and those are very rare.

I noticed that. Kinda strange how the newest fan is the most involved with setting up the rules for this place. XD Thanks, though.
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک MaxTheCat said…
big smile
No prob :D

Well it's because it affects me here more than anyone else. I just don't like those OC's being here ya know. When rules are being put up, I always make sure to follow them. You may call me Mr. Goodies Two Shoes if you want, but rules are rules. They help make things peaceful, and without it there would be utter chaos. They remind us what is good and what is bad. Besides I'm probably not only one who is affected by this, there could be other fanpoppers that feel the same way we do.

Hopefully when this is implemented, I might change my mind about leaving this spot forever.

Hey how about those crazy fangirl fights? should we do something about it?
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پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک quasomeness said…
^But about the OCs, if there is an image or any content that consists of both OCs and legit characters, should that content be permitted in the mainstreem PoM spot, or should it go in the Fans of PoM spot instead?
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Penguinangel said…
Max: I'm like that, too. SPKR can vouch for me. XD I actually spent a good couple hours looking for a rulebook or something for Fanpop before I posted this, but I couldn't find one anywhere.

The crazy fangirl fights haven't been a problem for months. As for the crazy fangirls themselves, I think we just need to wait and see if everything calms down once we get these rules in place.

quasomeness: I think it depends on what the focus of the picture it. If it's focused around the OC, then it should go to the Fans of PoM spot. But if it's focused on actual PoM characters and the OC is just kinda tossed in there on the side, then it should be fine here.

EDIT: Ok, the top section's getting pretty clustered now. Sorry if it seems kinda messy, I'll try and fix it later. Btw, the entire 5 section is basically what belongs where, which is why I did the a, b, c, d, and e sub-sections.
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پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک 67Dodge said…
If someone is spamming or reporting things for no reason, DON'T POINT FINGERS!!! It was so obnoxious yesterday. "I'll report her until she dies!!" I saw that once.
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Icicle1penguin said…
cool
^Yup. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty!
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک xDark_Angelx said…
Yes. I totally agree with these rules, and I hope they make things a bit more...organized on this spot. :)

^^Someone really put that. *checks* Well, that's just ridiculous. If there is no total proof, then no one should put stuff like that. Such a stupid thing to say... :/
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Penguinangel said…
^^^I agree with all three of you there. That was completely uncalled for.
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک quasomeness said…
If we don't know that someone is doing something wrong, we could report what we know for sure happened on the Contact Us button on the bottom of the page. The F4 will do the rest and do whatever is appropriate for the situation.

Actually, I'm not sure if we should or should not press the Contact Us button
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک quasomeness said…
Btw, I have an idea if someone posts something if (s)he is not sure if what (s)he's posting is related. We should contact the person if we think the content is unrelated. If the person is not contacted about the uncertainly related content (such as a picture of Private vs. Trololol), it would be okay to keep the content up.

Also, are you saying that if I see any OC content on the wall, for example, should I contact the person saying to check out this spot?
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پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Penguinangel said…
Don't use the contact us button for spammers. Use the little flag to report that fan/the spammy content.

Yeah, that's pretty much my plan.

Yes, you should.
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک amiraPOMvers said…
Wait,i'm confused now.
So,can you give example that must giving by spam?
(sorry,make you confuse too because i'm confused to write that XD)
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک Penguinangel said…
Alrighty, well now you have me confused. XD Do you want an example of spam, or an exanple of what we'll do if someone spams the spot?
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک amiraPOMvers said…
Both of them.
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک 67Dodge said…
"All are innocent until proven guilty" Good idea Icicle, a cookie for you for saying something democratic. Medieval Europe did that exact thing, pointing fingers at anyone with a bad reputation, that ended badly didn't it guys? Medieval Europe fell and it became known as the broken-up countries of Europe, that's what'll happen to our club, it will fall and break up into the branch offs that we have, so that's why we can't point fingers.
پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک quasomeness said…
Spam would basically be content that may be unrelated. OC content (such as a picture of a Penguinangel OC) would be considered spam. Ads linking to OC spots may also be considered spam. Something that wouldn't be spam is a picture of Kowalski.

I would also like to raise the issues of pairings (such as Skilene or Dorski). How do you feel about pairings? Would we be better with or without them?

Also, about the issues with false accusations, a good model would be the PoM episode "The Red Squirrel." Blaming could anger or ward others off about spam. It makes a paranoid and cynical environment here where everyone lives out of fear. Bottom line: don't blame others of something you're not sure of.
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پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک candlefairy_13 said…
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@quasomeness: Good question. There is already a spot intended for PoM OCs and its a nice idea. The only problem is that it's not very active compared to the original spot, here. Should we say that we should also support that site and go there and to the other spots as much as we do here?

Like what I said in SPKR's forum, everyone has the liberty to post and add whatever content they want to satisfy themselves as long as they know the limitations and consequences of whatever it is that they posted. Because if not, it could get pretty out of hand.

Fans must have responsibility, not the spamming button. If there is ever anything offending to one fan, he can always just tell the contributor about what he posted and tell him to remove it right away.

We just tackled the Analects yesterday and it states the Golden rule: "Do not do unto others what you would not they should do unto you." I think this verse would fit perfectly at a situation like this.

And no pointing of fingers, like Richard said. We must settle ourselves with facts, not figments of the imagination.