I heard the only TRUE form of medicine happens to be NATURAL medicine. That is true?

Also natural form of medicine does NOT happen overnight but rather takes (some) time for their effects to show, correct?
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ThePrincesTale said:
Oh BOIIIIIII

I’ve been waiting for this day. The دن fanpop discussed the bullshit claims of alt-med.

1. The majority of conventional medicines ARE derived from nature.

How do scientists and researchers actually make medicine?

First comes a process of discovery. This can be an investigation of older remedies (eg. cinchona bark was used سے طرف کی the Quechua to treat malaria… this is where quinine comes from, which is still used today), یا سے طرف کی screening a ‘library’ of natural substances (this is how many modern antibiotics were discovered), یا can simply come down to lucky chance (eg. penicillin was discovered because a dude accidently let fungi grow in his bacteria dish while he was on holiday).

So scientists get a natural substance. It doesn’t do much as is. It’s often not very potent, and the other stuff in the ‘chemical mixture’ can cause bad side effects.

So they take the substance and improve on it: they work out the active ingredient (the component that’s actually producing the therapeutic benefit), extract it from the other things that can cause side effects, purify it, and refine it. The end product? A very precise medicine with high potency and minimal side effects.

It is a natural product. The process just increases its benefits (potency and efficacy) and decreases its detriments (harmful side effects). It also allows us to control dosage much مزید effectively, so we’re not giving too much (bad consequences) یا too little (no consequences at all).

Examples: aspirin is derived from the leaves of the willow tree, antibiotics are bacterial and fungal derivatives (they’re actually the weapons the microorganisms use against each other in a microscopic arms race!), many chemotherapies are plant-derived (eg. vinca alkaloids).

So “natural medicine” isn’t the only natural medicine. At best, they simply use the crude precursors that are not as precise and efficacious, and have مزید side effects due to the ‘chemical mix’. Often they use substances that do not work at all.

If anyone is interested in the drug discovery process, I have a heap of slides from my microbes unit that I can share with you. It is actually incredibly interesting.
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ThePrincesTale posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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Tl;dr Please choose modern medicine over Harmonised Quantum-Synthetical Channelling Energetic Alignment Crystals
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Ya but if one was to idk learn about alternative medicine and not be an idiot with it we can probably utilize it it to a degree. Both forms of medicines can fuck آپ up agreed. I just don't think we should ignore completely friend.
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Zeppie said:
Nah.

Natural medicine can be good but it's just fluffing around tbh. Prescription medication will make the difference. Natural supplements on the other hand are good to take.
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Mauserfan1910 said:
No

Just because something is natural, doesn't make it better. Cancer is natural, all kinds of poisons are natural. Nature is trying to kill us all and only through science and scientifically proven methods of medicine can we stave off nature's murderous grasp
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I hate to say it here but nature isn't this beautiful magical thing. We exist in spite of nature, not in harmony with it. My nature is beautiful phase ended the moment I had to watch the life leave a calf's eyes as it was carried off and ripped apart سے طرف کی coyotes, یا that time I had to race a ranch hand to the hospital because he got bit سے طرف کی a snake. He didn't make it
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"That time I had to race a ranch hand to the hospital because he got bit سے طرف کی a snake." Jesus 0_o That is fucked :(
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It’s unfortunate that you’ve had such bad experiences with doctors, but I think the ones like آپ encountered represent the worst of the profession. They were certainly not following best medical practice. They may have even breached their standard of care to you. But this is not just an issue confined to medical doctors. There are also A LOT of bad alternative medicine practitioners out there. Believe me, I just did an internship in a medical law firm and there were a good deal many cases of alternative med practitioners being outright negligent. People also like to support the use of alternative medicine سے طرف کی suggesting that medical doctors and the medical industry are driven سے طرف کی money and greed. This completely ignores the fact that alternative medicine is just as profit-driven as any other – it’s an industry worth $34 billion per year, and its key players aggressively use lawsuits and lobbying to maximise their profits and quash any possibility of regulation.
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THaSlimJim said:
o fuk ok

my bf's family is in the whol like medical buisness ok & they get lots of ppl get rushed in 2 the hospital bcause they went w/ the "natural" options 4 serious stuff instead of getting real like doctors & medicine. sure theres some like at-home remedies that work but thats just 4 small stuff like headaches یا bee stings یا stuff.

besdices its not like medicine is like "un"natural its all based on science-y stuff tht actually like works & has been proven 2 work based on like the actual human body & i dont get y ppl think its unnatural??? like y r u belivin this hackshot witch docto ovr here tellin u to eat like 3 hazelnuts a دن and get acupuncture over someone that spent a lot of time and money to actually learn about hte science wtf???
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BlindBandit92 said:
Both natural medicine and modern medicine can hurt you. It just depends on who prepares it,what dosage,what it is,is it the right remedy for کہا thing,etc. There's a multitude of case سے طرف کی case scenarios.

I'll give آپ a few examples

Aloe Vera is actually an extremely medicinal plant and people have been using the رس, جوس and leaves for centuries. That will cure and it has cured alot of things سے طرف کی itself یا with mixes of other plants for centuries

Some psychotropic can really fuck آپ up even if the doctor thinks آپ need it. I had issues with walking when I was younger. My Mom was freaking out trying to give me help. She went to this one doctor who essentially wanted to break my legs and reset them (Even though there was nothing wrong with them) He thought it was physical. On سب, سب سے اوپر of that he wanted to give me medicines that will have made me drool and forever be out of it in an asylum یا my home.
Thus if I took it. I wouldn't be here right now to have this conversation with آپ guys. He thought I had physical and mental issues. I am 100% fine today as I do have the same issue. My mother who was working in the medical field at the time knew about the medicines that quack was giving me. She asked him very sternly "Would آپ give that to your son?" He replied. "But this is not my son" My mother repeated her question. And he was quiet. At that point my mother took me to another doctor to get help. That guy wanted to experiment on me. Alot of things are مزید filled with gray areas than some would care to admit.

Depending on an individuals knowledge of the field. ہوم remedies AND drugs can be useful.

If anyone disagrees with me that modern medicine is mostly useful. Do look online on فورم where people have gotten used to some medications because they take it so much. Look up scenarios where the modern medicine doesn't always help یا look up where medications made a decent amount of illnesses,pains,cancers,etc worse than before. The world isn't in black and white. (You can argue that modern medicine isn't perfect but natural remedies isn't perfect either) Both should be used on a case سے طرف کی case basis.
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