What's your opinion on "rape" ?

Is there any way to stop this thing یا reduce it? I'm an adult guy. But, I'm being emotional about this topic here. I know that I shouldn't be emotional because it's the debate club. But, seriously. I live in a third world poor country name "Bangladesh" whic is Asia. Rape, hypocrisy, sexism. These are part of everydays life here. This place is no less than a hell. There is a guy (my childhood mate and I haven't talked with him for years) who گیا کیا پوسٹ a story in the facebook about how he raped his maid-servant while his parents were not home(it's written in our language). Others seem to be enjoying the story, complimenting him and giving "likes"! He also کہا it proudly that the girl(the poor girl :( .. ) couldn't walk for three days due to the pain. He binded here hands while raping her and he hardly had any knowledge about hymen. (I've read it in a book that it really hurts when girl's hymen breaks..Partner should fuck her slowly یا shouldn't fuck her when it breaks. It depends on the girl) But, the guy was fucking her really fast from the begining. The girl was screaming with great pain. The story really offended me. I really don't know why others were enjoying the story. That girl was innocent. This kind of incidents are parts of our everydays life in our country. I wish there was something I could do about it. My life has become hell here. There's so much suffering, so much pain, so much discrimination. It really hurts, y'know. It really does.
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Cinders said:
A مقبول phrase that's getting مزید and مزید use lately is "rape culture," and I believe it sums up the problem quite well. The problem with rape, even in American culture, and as illustrated سے طرف کی your example, is that it's implicitly condoned, یا at least not condemned loud enough سے طرف کی the global culture. While this is most apparent in so-called "third world" countries, it is equally present in Western so-called "progressive" cultures as well. The graphic I've included with this answer will tell آپ why.

In the non-Western world, rape is even مزید common place, even مزید excused, and this is for a variety of reasons that varies from country to country and region to region. In some countries, rape is religiously یا otherwise culturally encouraged. In others, it's discouraged, but ignored, یا blamed on the victim. These same countries tend to handle issues like homosexuality and HIV/AIDS the same way, سے طرف کی denying either of them exist. In still others, rape has just become normalized, a sad truth but accepted سے طرف کی men and women alike.

The West would like to think that it's progressed beyond this, but just because our racism, sexism and other prejudices are مزید hidden doesn't make them any less harmful. As the graphic below shows, rape culture in the United States still exists. We blame the victims because men can't control themselves. We shame the victims so they won't رپورٹ it. And we let 97% of rapists get out of jail free.

In a way, the problem in the West is مزید insidious, because believe like to BELIEVE we are not a racist یا sexist culture, so that's what they tell themselves and each other. But looking at the facts and statistics - that the vast majority of our lower class and people living in poverty is represented سے طرف کی minorities, and that the people in congress and the senate are mostly old, white males, it's clear that this is not the case. The United States ignores the problems caused سے طرف کی racism and sexism سے طرف کی pretending that these monsters, these signs of a "less evolved" human being (ie, "savages" like those in the rest of the world, which is ironically in itself racist and hypocritical), are signs of our past, that we've come beyond that. Racism and sexism and guilt ironically contribute to denying that racism and sexism still exist in our countries.

I don't know how to change this. I don't know how to fix this. Except when آپ tell your daughters not to dress provocatively, don't forget to tell your sons that they aren't sharks that can't resist a drop of blood in the water. Don't forget to tell your sons that women are human beings, women are equal, and no matter what they wear, it's not an invitation. Don't forget to tell both your sons and daughters that it's only ever OK if the word "YES" is explicitly uttered, and that a lack of response cannot and should never be interpreted as a "yes," but rather a "no."
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 A مقبول phrase that's getting مزید and مزید use lately is "rape culture," and I believe it sums up the problem quite well. The problem with rape, even in American culture, and as illustrated سے طرف کی your example, is that it's implicitly condoned, یا at least not condemned loud enough سے طرف کی the global culture. While this is most apparent in so-called "third world" countries, it is equally present in Western so-called "progressive" cultures as well. The graphic I've included with this answer will tell آپ why. In the non-Western world, rape is even مزید common place, even مزید excused, and this is for a variety of reasons that varies from country to country and region to region. In some countries, rape is religiously یا otherwise culturally encouraged. In others, it's discouraged, but ignored, یا blamed on the victim. These same countries tend to handle issues like homosexuality and HIV/AIDS the same way, سے طرف کی denying either of them exist. In still others, rape has just become normalized, a sad truth but accepted سے طرف کی men and women alike. The West would like to think that it's progressed beyond this, but just because our racism, sexism and other prejudices are مزید hidden doesn't make them any less harmful. As the graphic below shows, rape culture in the United States still exists. We blame the victims because men can't control themselves. We shame the victims so they won't رپورٹ it. And we let 97% of rapists get out of jail free. In a way, the problem in the West is مزید insidious, because believe like to BELIEVE we are not a racist یا sexist culture, so that's what they tell themselves and each other. But looking at the facts and statistics - that the vast majority of our lower class and people living in poverty is represented سے طرف کی minorities, and that the people in congress and the senate are mostly old, white males, it's clear that this is not the case. The United States ignores the problems caused سے طرف کی racism and sexism سے طرف کی pretending that these monsters, these signs of a "less evolved" human being (ie, "savages" like those in the rest of the world, which is ironically in itself racist and hypocritical), are signs of our past, that we've come beyond that. Racism and sexism and guilt ironically contribute to denying that racism and sexism still exist in our countries. I don't know how to change this. I don't know how to fix this. Except when آپ tell your daughters not to dress provocatively, don't forget to tell your sons that they aren't sharks that can't resist a drop of blood in the water. Don't forget to tell your sons that women are human beings, women are equal, and no matter what they wear, it's not an invitation. Don't forget to tell both your sons and daughters that it's only ever OK if the word "YES" is explicitly uttered, and that a lack of response cannot and should never be interpreted as a "yes," but rather a "no."
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Rape is about power, and misogyny is about subverting women and exerting power over them. Rape is an excellent tool for this. But it's also an excellent tool to exert power over fellow men. There are jokes about prison, but those things happen to establish an alpha dog hierarchy. آپ aren't gay, they say, unless you're the one getting fucked. Robert Deniro famously کہا in <a href="linkin America</a>, "I am not a gay man. I am a heterosexual man who fucks around with guys." Rape, regardless of the victim, is about power and taking power away from the victim, no matter the sex یا gender of either party. We need to make gender equality and indeed, equality in all aspects of life, an absolute priority. We need to demonize rape even مزید than we already have. We need to absolutely condemn it. We need to make it one hundred percent unacceptable. How we do that, though, is beyond me.
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A splendid effort :) I agree. I didn't know that developed countries got the same kind of problems. The main difference between the developed countries and our thirld world developing countries is that, They have educated conscious public people like آپ who can speak up. But, we hardly have any people here who can speak up against sexism, racism etc due to political corruption and systemic tradition of society. We also have educated and conscious people. But, who ever tried to speak up against them either were ignored یا crushed سے طرف کی the society. Finally, I want to say I also agree with آپ that doing something like that is beyond people like me یا you. This is the part which makes me feel مزید bad.
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cataclysm450 said:
When the word rape comes to my mind I immediately think vile. It's disgusting. Sex should be enjoyable among it's participants not painful یا forceful. It pisses me off to think that there's still people out in the world that take advantage of others like that.

Above anything else rape is dangerous, yet sloppy. What if that lady he had sex with had some sort of sexual transmitted disease یا vice versa. People need to stop to think about crap like that. But no they let their genitals do the thinking for them.

It's a very sad world that we live in with even sadder citizens. Part of the huge problem with rape is that not too many people talk about it. Sure, every once in a while it might be mention but other times it's pushed to the side like it's nothing.

I think if we discussed مزید about rape then it could possibly start to die down. We need to talk about the pain it inflicts and the possible consequences. Maybe then people can start to realize how horrible it is. Right now, majority of us know it's bad but not how bad it really is.

We have society to blame for that. I mean they make tons of فلمیں about how a innocent little girl meets Mr. baddie and they like and each other. Slowly they get close and right at the moment their about to have sex the girl backs out. The guy rapes her and tells all of his دوستوں at school. The girl is heartbroken but she doesn't do anything about it. She sort of just brushes it to the side eventually forgetting about it. That's the problem! فلمیں like that poison rape even more. They need to execute the proper consequence.

The viewers would just think 'oh its no big deal' when in reality it is. Believe it یا not, media plays a ginormous role in our actions. Because, what we constantly see we most likely do. The government need to realize this and take action but that's unfortunately false hope right there.

Even parents are aware of this. That's why they monitor their child's ویژن ٹیلی programs and block inappropriate shows. They shouldn't have to do that though. It's because t.v is so damn tarnished today.


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bri-marie said:
I think rape is mostly the result of sexism and patriarchy. It comes from the idea that women are less than men, and are only there for men's pleasure. I don't think we'll ever be able to fully eradicate it (because women rape men, and I don't think that's a problem with patriarchy), but I do think that working to educate men that women are human, and are to be treated as humans, and that women are, in fact, equal to men would be a big step in reducing it.

(Also, side-note: the hymen isn't broken.)
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He کہا she was bleeding.
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The vagina itself can be torn inside, which causes bleeding (this is probably the most likely case, دیا how violent the act was), یا the hymen can be torn, which can bleed. But there's a difference between something being 'torn' and something being 'broken.'
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Oh, I see.
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whiteflame55 said:
Dealing with rape is not simple. Animal urges drive humanity as thoroughly as any other animal, and some people think too much with other parts of their anatomy than their brains.

Teaching that rape is not alright is a start, but it's generally not adequate. I think we have to start changing mindsets. A major part of the reason that rape occurs in the male -> female direction is because women are generally viewed as weak and vulnerable, while men are viewed as powerful and authoritative. That should change. There shouldn't be a perspective that women are vulnerable to the advances of men. There shouldn't be a perspective that men should enforce their power on others in a highly masculine way. The less we teach this sort of dichotomy, the مزید we can solve for rape.
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blackpanther666 said:
My thoughts on rape are simple... It's disgusting that any man should force himself upon a woman, without her consent, have sex with her, then leave her frightened and absolutely horrified, all because some people just don't care about anything other than themselves... Not just that, but also the fact that these men generally disrespect women in general and so view them as 'playthings', rather than people... It's just like with that سوال about sexism and objectification, of which, rape displays both.
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zanhar1 said:
I feel very negatively about it. Be it a man یا a woman preforming the rape it is very uncalled for. I think it's for the people who are just so desperate to 'get some' that they have to force it on another, and that's not right at all. I believe these people should be locked up, and stay locked up for a very long time. I also think it's disgusting that people sympatize with the rapists claiming that 'oh the poor boy will never live a normal teenage life, his life is ruined'. I say 'Good, he deserved it. He lost the right to a normal childhood so to speak when he چرا لیا, چوری کی it from an innocent woman. He probably ruined a good portion of her life.' (And this story could work with the genders reversed). Absolutely sickening act.

And no offense, I think that was a very sick thing for your friend to do. And to brag about something so disgusting... to say the least I hope his future employers find his facebook and keep him from ever getting a job. I have a friend who likes to joke about rape and I darn near slapped him in the middle of class for it today. I also don't see how he was getting likes for something so stupid and disgusting.

On another note, it's nice to know that آپ were above such bullcrap and weren't high-fiveing this guy.
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hetalianstella said:
Well, my thoughts are that it's simply awful. No one should ever sexually force themselves on someone else. It's unnecessary. If آپ really are so desperate for sex than آپ should at least find someone willing. Raping damages that victim in every way possible. Physically, emotionally, socially, and mentally. It's traumatizing and that person will have to carry around that memory of it for the rest of their life. I don't think it's right for anyone to suffer this.
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monkeyrockla said:
I hate it. Its not right and even if the lady is drunk its taking avantage of her.
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