Warning: this is gonna be a huge trip to memory-land, but PLEASE read it until the end. Maybe آپ might feel the same.
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Two years ago, when I first joined fanpop, things were a lot different here. I was 15 years old and I only watched one TV show: Heroes. I was insanely addicted to that دکھائیں (I still am, it’s my سیکنڈ پسندیدہ دکھائیں ever) and I was searching for some episodes online on some random site. That site (I have no idea which one is now, Lol) had a lot of لنکس to episodes, and some of those لنکس bought me to fanpop.
The first think I noticed about this site was those funny options things where آپ could vote, also known as picks. =P
And those were the reason why, in June of 2007, I joined this site. To answer those picks and eventually get spoiled about future episodes I hadn’t seen yet. xD (if آپ watch Heroes, آپ know how it works, in season 1, people were always dying there. LOL)
I got totally addicted and I joined the Heroes spot, and I eventually made my own first link. That pick gave my first سہارا ever, سے طرف کی no other than Dave (YAY, thank آپ Dave <3), and I swear I jumped around the house when I saw the little سہارا thing. xD
Then I made some مزید picks. =) It was the only thing I was doing on fanpop, lol. (It’s sill my پسندیدہ way of contributing, because I love to choose the right تصاویر to add, and I love to read other people’s comments.)
So, after 15 picks on the Heroes spot, I got my first Dedicated medal ever... And almost a heart-attack when I saw it. LOL xD
See, on those days, it wasn’t very common to watch people with many medals. It was VERY rare to find people with fanatics, I think I only met one یا two.
Back then, the Heroes spot was the spot with مزید شائقین and the most مقبول (which made me extremely happy, yay go Heroes! xD). It had about 3000 fans, and I might be very wrong, but I’m pretty sure it hadn’t had مزید than this. Yea, pretty crazy right? Considering how much شائقین the Twilight spot has now. Lol
But this was then.
For some reason, I went un-active a few months. Season 2 of Heroes was starting and I didn’t want to be spoiled سے طرف کی picks, since I was waiting for it to come on TV (which took quite time actually, it sucks to live in Portugal). Also, I was running out of ideas for picks. LOL
Months later I got back and I had started to watch other shows. So I joined مزید spots, like One درخت ہل, لندن and Supernatural.
OTH is my پسندیدہ دکھائیں ever, and my سیکنڈ dedicated medal was for that spot, also with just picks.
Then I started to add ویڈیوز and my first die hard was for that spot, I got it on August of 2008.
My first Fanatic medal was for that spot too. Now, آپ don’t ever forget your Fanatics (especially your first), so I know that I got on October 22nd of 2008. I also know I’m a nerd for knowing that date.
سے طرف کی December, I was the 6th سب, سب سے اوپر contributer of that spot.
And right now, I’m proudly the 3rd. =]
And this is what happens when آپ work hard to something. All the wait and all the work feels undeniably great.
But situations like these are مزید rare and rare these days. And I guess that’s the point of this article.
آپ see, I must really be a naïve person, because it took me a LONG time to figuring out the medal system. I had no idea what kind of “amount” of contribution was needed. And when one time, I read somewhere that the ratings helped, I thought WE had to give ratings to get medals. So I kinda rated ALL the ویڈیوز on the OTH spot. LOL (I don’t regret it btw, I found some great ویڈیوز there xD). Anyways, silly me for being slow, no wonder why people call me “looser” یا “Joey”. =P
Some new شائقین aren’t naïve at all. In fact, they were very quickly to understanding that whole thing. So it’s simple, they ask people to rate their stuff.
There was a ratings فورم on the OTH spot, on the دوستوں spot and maybe on others spots too. All آپ had to do was posting لنکس of your stuff and people would rate it. Those فورم no longer exist, they were deleted, because it wasn’t a fair way of getting medals. I honestly couldn’t have agreed مزید with this decision.
Now, those new شائقین (new fans, not the شائقین who were using those forums), are fully aware of this. So instead of having a forum, they do it سے طرف کی messages. They message other users asking for ratings. As I see it, this is exactly the same thing as having a forum, except that with messages, there is no prove of the cheating. This kind of cheating is like air, آپ don’t see it. But آپ know it’s there.
A lot of users have an incredible number of تمغے right now. All because of those ratings.
At this moment, I have 26 dedicated medals, 17 die-hard تمغے and 7 fanatic medals.
I’m a member of fanpop مزید than two years now. And I feel really accomplished.
Trust me, it’s not about the medals. It’s how far I’ve went, from having zero medals, to have 50.
So, I think it’s very unfair to see some users – cheating users – who are here, for less than FIVE MONTHS to have way مزید تمغے than me یا other users, that work harder for them.
It’s not even about the medals, it’s about the content that they add to getting those medals. To add icons, all آپ have to do is find some LiveJournals یا some پرستار sites. Also, آپ can add repeated ones. And it gets even easier when آپ ask other people to rate them.
Now imagine how I feel, when I’m working for a medal, adding stuff and NOT asking anybody to rate them for me, to witness situations like these.
Let me just use a couple of hypothetical examples.
Let’s say a certain user added, 75 ویڈیوز and 120 تصاویر to a spot.
Let’s say I added 875 ویڈیوز and 1485 تصاویر to the same spot. Which means, I added مزید than 800 ویڈیوز and 1000 تصاویر than that user. Now, let’s say we both have Die-Hard medals.
Does this scream fair to you?
Other example. Hypothetical. On other totally different spot, with much less شائقین than the first one.
A user added 170 ویڈیوز and 130 images. That user has a Fanatic. She’s the سب, سب سے اوپر contributor.
Other user added 20 ویڈیوز and 200 images. That user has a die-hard. She’s the سیکنڈ سب, سب سے اوپر contributor.
I added 350 ویڈیوز and 1500 images. I have a die-hard. I’m the third سب, سب سے اوپر contributor.
Fair? Excuse me for not thinking so.
The thing is I don’t even care about medals. I don’t. This is about other people taking me the pleasure of feeling ACCOMPLISHED. How can I feel that way, knowing that I worked so hard, knowing that I waited months and knowing that some other user got it easily with less work and in two weeks?
I’m not the only one who feels this way.
Some other people do too. Some other people tried to do something about it. And I watched some of them getting banned. We lost Myra, the سب, سب سے اوپر contributor of all fanpop because of this mess.
Myra, who I truly admire because of her work. There are a lot of people who might not like her. But even those, آپ can’t honestly say that Myra didn’t work for her تمغے and that she didn’t deserve EVERY SINGLE ONE of them. Because she did. And not only just her. Gogokef, Clarkfan, Addie, Tvfan95. Does this names ring any گھنٹی, بیل to you?
I hope whoever who is reading this, understands what this مضمون is about. This is not me bragging and/or trying to get مزید medals. This is me trying to stop unfair situations.
The fanpop 4 built the best site on Earth, hands down. This is not just about picks for me now, lol. I spend most of the times talking on فورم and I met the most amazing شائقین here. <3
So, I’m not, in any way, trying to tell them what to do. But I can’t help to say that this rating system It’s not working. In my opinion (and notice that this is just an OPINION), I think the ratings shouldn’t count as much. They can count, but not as much as they do now.
On one side, I think the ویڈیوز should be considerate مزید important. آپ can add all the تصاویر آپ want, all the times آپ want, but آپ can’t add repeated videos. And if آپ notice, the users that “cheat”, don’t add much videos. It’s not hard to understand why. But on the other hand, there aren’t as many ویڈیوز of one subject as there are images, so yea, it’s not right than the ویڈیوز count مزید than images.. In the end, it’s better to leave this situation to the people who know the best, aka the fanpop 4. =P
I was just trying to express how I feel about this.
Sorry If I offend anyone. I didn’t use any names, just to avoid that.
I’m not trying to get anyone banned, like I don’t want to be banned. I love this site way too much.
I guess this is what I’m trying to say:
I honestly don’t know why people cheat to get medals. There’s no better feeling than getting new تمغے when آپ least expect it. Especially if one of those تمغے is a fanatic. آپ get the accomplished feeling and when آپ told other users about, they also get REALLY happy (sometimes happier than آپ ;)), because they know how hard it is to get a medal. And they totally سہارا spam the hell out of you. LOL
This feeling is great. Don’t take it away from fanpop. There’s no point of having 20 fanatics if they feel like a normal medal to you.
Let’s get this feeling back! =]
EDIT: There’s something I think it’s relevant and I forgot to add. The thing is that, the “cheating” users I mentioned above, don’t just message each other asking for ratings, they also ask to rate others users stuff low. Some users tried to stop the cheating, but not only they couldn’t do it, they saw their perfectly fine stuff being rated with one star.
I’ve saw/read one of those messages, sent سے طرف کی one “cheating” user. I think someone has that message screen caped somewhere. The content of the message was simple, it کہا to rate everything of their “friends” group high (as in 5 stars), and rate everything of the users who tried to stop the cheating low (as in 1 star).
And I’ve seen stuff rated low.
Seriously, who wastes their time like this? Also, who wastes their time creating tons of fake accounts? Because those are against the fanpop rules, but I’ve seen a LOT of them. I think it’s just mean, not only they are getting تمغے not playing fair, but they are making it hard for other users to get them. Users than DON’T cheat.
This is not what fanpop is about.
Again, I apologize If it seems that I’m writing this just to attack someone.
That’s not really my point.
This is just to دکھائیں how tired I am of all the situation. =/
To finish.. I promise this is my last edit. LOL
This مضمون has 5 pages on Word already, I don’t think I would be writing as much if this was for a school paper. XD
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Two years ago, when I first joined fanpop, things were a lot different here. I was 15 years old and I only watched one TV show: Heroes. I was insanely addicted to that دکھائیں (I still am, it’s my سیکنڈ پسندیدہ دکھائیں ever) and I was searching for some episodes online on some random site. That site (I have no idea which one is now, Lol) had a lot of لنکس to episodes, and some of those لنکس bought me to fanpop.
The first think I noticed about this site was those funny options things where آپ could vote, also known as picks. =P
And those were the reason why, in June of 2007, I joined this site. To answer those picks and eventually get spoiled about future episodes I hadn’t seen yet. xD (if آپ watch Heroes, آپ know how it works, in season 1, people were always dying there. LOL)
I got totally addicted and I joined the Heroes spot, and I eventually made my own first link. That pick gave my first سہارا ever, سے طرف کی no other than Dave (YAY, thank آپ Dave <3), and I swear I jumped around the house when I saw the little سہارا thing. xD
Then I made some مزید picks. =) It was the only thing I was doing on fanpop, lol. (It’s sill my پسندیدہ way of contributing, because I love to choose the right تصاویر to add, and I love to read other people’s comments.)
So, after 15 picks on the Heroes spot, I got my first Dedicated medal ever... And almost a heart-attack when I saw it. LOL xD
See, on those days, it wasn’t very common to watch people with many medals. It was VERY rare to find people with fanatics, I think I only met one یا two.
Back then, the Heroes spot was the spot with مزید شائقین and the most مقبول (which made me extremely happy, yay go Heroes! xD). It had about 3000 fans, and I might be very wrong, but I’m pretty sure it hadn’t had مزید than this. Yea, pretty crazy right? Considering how much شائقین the Twilight spot has now. Lol
But this was then.
For some reason, I went un-active a few months. Season 2 of Heroes was starting and I didn’t want to be spoiled سے طرف کی picks, since I was waiting for it to come on TV (which took quite time actually, it sucks to live in Portugal). Also, I was running out of ideas for picks. LOL
Months later I got back and I had started to watch other shows. So I joined مزید spots, like One درخت ہل, لندن and Supernatural.
OTH is my پسندیدہ دکھائیں ever, and my سیکنڈ dedicated medal was for that spot, also with just picks.
Then I started to add ویڈیوز and my first die hard was for that spot, I got it on August of 2008.
My first Fanatic medal was for that spot too. Now, آپ don’t ever forget your Fanatics (especially your first), so I know that I got on October 22nd of 2008. I also know I’m a nerd for knowing that date.
سے طرف کی December, I was the 6th سب, سب سے اوپر contributer of that spot.
And right now, I’m proudly the 3rd. =]
And this is what happens when آپ work hard to something. All the wait and all the work feels undeniably great.
But situations like these are مزید rare and rare these days. And I guess that’s the point of this article.
آپ see, I must really be a naïve person, because it took me a LONG time to figuring out the medal system. I had no idea what kind of “amount” of contribution was needed. And when one time, I read somewhere that the ratings helped, I thought WE had to give ratings to get medals. So I kinda rated ALL the ویڈیوز on the OTH spot. LOL (I don’t regret it btw, I found some great ویڈیوز there xD). Anyways, silly me for being slow, no wonder why people call me “looser” یا “Joey”. =P
Some new شائقین aren’t naïve at all. In fact, they were very quickly to understanding that whole thing. So it’s simple, they ask people to rate their stuff.
There was a ratings فورم on the OTH spot, on the دوستوں spot and maybe on others spots too. All آپ had to do was posting لنکس of your stuff and people would rate it. Those فورم no longer exist, they were deleted, because it wasn’t a fair way of getting medals. I honestly couldn’t have agreed مزید with this decision.
Now, those new شائقین (new fans, not the شائقین who were using those forums), are fully aware of this. So instead of having a forum, they do it سے طرف کی messages. They message other users asking for ratings. As I see it, this is exactly the same thing as having a forum, except that with messages, there is no prove of the cheating. This kind of cheating is like air, آپ don’t see it. But آپ know it’s there.
A lot of users have an incredible number of تمغے right now. All because of those ratings.
At this moment, I have 26 dedicated medals, 17 die-hard تمغے and 7 fanatic medals.
I’m a member of fanpop مزید than two years now. And I feel really accomplished.
Trust me, it’s not about the medals. It’s how far I’ve went, from having zero medals, to have 50.
So, I think it’s very unfair to see some users – cheating users – who are here, for less than FIVE MONTHS to have way مزید تمغے than me یا other users, that work harder for them.
It’s not even about the medals, it’s about the content that they add to getting those medals. To add icons, all آپ have to do is find some LiveJournals یا some پرستار sites. Also, آپ can add repeated ones. And it gets even easier when آپ ask other people to rate them.
Now imagine how I feel, when I’m working for a medal, adding stuff and NOT asking anybody to rate them for me, to witness situations like these.
Let me just use a couple of hypothetical examples.
Let’s say a certain user added, 75 ویڈیوز and 120 تصاویر to a spot.
Let’s say I added 875 ویڈیوز and 1485 تصاویر to the same spot. Which means, I added مزید than 800 ویڈیوز and 1000 تصاویر than that user. Now, let’s say we both have Die-Hard medals.
Does this scream fair to you?
Other example. Hypothetical. On other totally different spot, with much less شائقین than the first one.
A user added 170 ویڈیوز and 130 images. That user has a Fanatic. She’s the سب, سب سے اوپر contributor.
Other user added 20 ویڈیوز and 200 images. That user has a die-hard. She’s the سیکنڈ سب, سب سے اوپر contributor.
I added 350 ویڈیوز and 1500 images. I have a die-hard. I’m the third سب, سب سے اوپر contributor.
Fair? Excuse me for not thinking so.
The thing is I don’t even care about medals. I don’t. This is about other people taking me the pleasure of feeling ACCOMPLISHED. How can I feel that way, knowing that I worked so hard, knowing that I waited months and knowing that some other user got it easily with less work and in two weeks?
I’m not the only one who feels this way.
Some other people do too. Some other people tried to do something about it. And I watched some of them getting banned. We lost Myra, the سب, سب سے اوپر contributor of all fanpop because of this mess.
Myra, who I truly admire because of her work. There are a lot of people who might not like her. But even those, آپ can’t honestly say that Myra didn’t work for her تمغے and that she didn’t deserve EVERY SINGLE ONE of them. Because she did. And not only just her. Gogokef, Clarkfan, Addie, Tvfan95. Does this names ring any گھنٹی, بیل to you?
I hope whoever who is reading this, understands what this مضمون is about. This is not me bragging and/or trying to get مزید medals. This is me trying to stop unfair situations.
The fanpop 4 built the best site on Earth, hands down. This is not just about picks for me now, lol. I spend most of the times talking on فورم and I met the most amazing شائقین here. <3
So, I’m not, in any way, trying to tell them what to do. But I can’t help to say that this rating system It’s not working. In my opinion (and notice that this is just an OPINION), I think the ratings shouldn’t count as much. They can count, but not as much as they do now.
On one side, I think the ویڈیوز should be considerate مزید important. آپ can add all the تصاویر آپ want, all the times آپ want, but آپ can’t add repeated videos. And if آپ notice, the users that “cheat”, don’t add much videos. It’s not hard to understand why. But on the other hand, there aren’t as many ویڈیوز of one subject as there are images, so yea, it’s not right than the ویڈیوز count مزید than images.. In the end, it’s better to leave this situation to the people who know the best, aka the fanpop 4. =P
I was just trying to express how I feel about this.
Sorry If I offend anyone. I didn’t use any names, just to avoid that.
I’m not trying to get anyone banned, like I don’t want to be banned. I love this site way too much.
I guess this is what I’m trying to say:
I honestly don’t know why people cheat to get medals. There’s no better feeling than getting new تمغے when آپ least expect it. Especially if one of those تمغے is a fanatic. آپ get the accomplished feeling and when آپ told other users about, they also get REALLY happy (sometimes happier than آپ ;)), because they know how hard it is to get a medal. And they totally سہارا spam the hell out of you. LOL
This feeling is great. Don’t take it away from fanpop. There’s no point of having 20 fanatics if they feel like a normal medal to you.
Let’s get this feeling back! =]
EDIT: There’s something I think it’s relevant and I forgot to add. The thing is that, the “cheating” users I mentioned above, don’t just message each other asking for ratings, they also ask to rate others users stuff low. Some users tried to stop the cheating, but not only they couldn’t do it, they saw their perfectly fine stuff being rated with one star.
I’ve saw/read one of those messages, sent سے طرف کی one “cheating” user. I think someone has that message screen caped somewhere. The content of the message was simple, it کہا to rate everything of their “friends” group high (as in 5 stars), and rate everything of the users who tried to stop the cheating low (as in 1 star).
And I’ve seen stuff rated low.
Seriously, who wastes their time like this? Also, who wastes their time creating tons of fake accounts? Because those are against the fanpop rules, but I’ve seen a LOT of them. I think it’s just mean, not only they are getting تمغے not playing fair, but they are making it hard for other users to get them. Users than DON’T cheat.
This is not what fanpop is about.
Again, I apologize If it seems that I’m writing this just to attack someone.
That’s not really my point.
This is just to دکھائیں how tired I am of all the situation. =/
To finish.. I promise this is my last edit. LOL
This مضمون has 5 pages on Word already, I don’t think I would be writing as much if this was for a school paper. XD
Do آپ ever find when آپ make a spot it is always آپ adding all the time with the odd add from another user? That even when آپ get over 100 شائقین to the spot its can still be just آپ adding all the time. Till one دن آپ can't add any مزید یا آپ don't want to. I have found this a problem with a few of my spots where it is just me adding page after page of ویڈیوز and links.
So basicly this is just me asking every پرستار please just go to a spot that hasnt been updated in a while and just add one thing to it please !!! (and i know this sounds like a charity advert lol)
So basicly this is just me asking every پرستار please just go to a spot that hasnt been updated in a while and just add one thing to it please !!! (and i know this sounds like a charity advert lol)