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Why is Harry Potter مزید successful than Twilight?

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JaseKS said:
Because it appeals to all tastes.

Romance: There is some slight romantic appeal that applies to most characters.

Horror: It has a horror edge to it.

Fantasy: Wizards. Nuff' said.


Where as Twilight contains mostly romance. It also isn't that well written. Stephanie Myers uses large words that no one else does in a casual conversation just to hide the fact that she has an underdeveloped style of writing.


Also, the problem with Twilight is, many of the characters are underdeveloped. I mean, people like Jasper یا Victoria could be awesome characters, but Stephanie is too busy focousing on one character. Edward. And even he is underdeveloped.

I also thing that because all the guys are fawning over Bella, it doesn't seem relatable. At least the characters in Harry Potter have flaws, making them مزید realistic. It also has a solid back story, and isn't as scattered. I feel like the events in twilight are a jumbled mess.
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I see the logic in this. A book that appales to a wide variety of audiences is bound to have مزید success. But Twilight is on the horror edge too.
zanhar1 posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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I suppose, it depends on how آپ look at it, I guess.
JaseKS posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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'Tis true it all depends on how much gore one can handle.
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alisonfaith297 said:
there are 5 main reasons:
#1 the HP films have gained much better critic reception than the twilight films, seriously, based on metacritic (which is a well recognized sites where is gives an مجموعی طور پر score of film considering all possible critic scores)
HP average scores: 74%
Twilight: 51%

SCores سے طرف کی Rotten Tomatoes (another site which gather up scores but calculates in a different way)
HP average: 85%
twilight average:39%

#2 HP کتابیں are way better in literary terms, JKR has won quite a few prestigious book awards while steph meyer has only gain some titles from places such as entertainment weekly for مصنف of the year, (take note, when her book gain مزید popularity, JKR published majority of the HP novels already). to back up my story more, this is a quote from Stephen king (who in case آپ dont know, is an extremely well noted مصنف in the literary world): "the real difference is that Jo Rowling is a terrific writer, and Stephenie Meyer can't write worth a darn. She's not very good.people are attracted سے طرف کی the stories, سے طرف کی the pace and in the case of Stephenie Meyer, it's very clear that she's writing to a whole generation of girls and opening up kind of a محفوظ joining of love and sex in those books. It's exciting and it's thrilling and it's not particularly threatening because it's not overtly sexual. A lot of the physical side of it is conveyed in things like, the vampire will touch her forearm یا run a hand over skin, and she just flushes all hot and cold. And for girls, that’s a shorthand for all the feelings that they’re not ready to deal with yet."

#3 That quote سے طرف کی stephen king leds to my third point, speaking as a female of this generation ( not to be feminist یا anything), i find that the entire story of twilight to be very demeaning, it makes it sound like all girls can do is not help to fall in love with a guy and if the guy were to leave her, her whole world will fall apart.

#4 to be honest, i dont see much plot in the movies, it مزید of people screaming over the fact that taylor lautner has nice abs, and robert patterson is sparkly??? In HP, there is an actually story آپ can follow while twilight plot just seems to be predictable.

#5 lets just be honest here, most of us here would rather watch a good battle between good and evil ( Harry Vs Voldy) while watch a girl named bella, fall for some guy and well the rest is history.
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 there are 5 main reasons: #1 the HP films have gained much better critic reception than the twilight films, seriously, based on metacritic (which is a well recognized sites where is gives an مجموعی طور پر score of film considering all possible critic scores) HP average scores: 74% Twilight: 51% SCores سے طرف کی Rotten Tomatoes (another site which gather up scores but calculates in a different way) HP average: 85% twilight average:39% #2 HP کتابیں are way better in literary terms, JKR has won quite a few prestigious book awards while steph meyer has only gain some titles from places such as entertainment weekly for مصنف of the year, (take note, when her book gain مزید popularity, JKR published majority of the HP novels already). to back up my story more, this is a quote from Stephen king (who in case آپ dont know, is an extremely well noted مصنف in the literary world): "the real difference is that Jo Rowling is a terrific writer, and Stephenie Meyer can't write worth a darn. She's not very good.people are attracted سے طرف کی the stories, سے طرف کی the pace and in the case of Stephenie Meyer, it's very clear that she's writing to a whole generation of girls and opening up kind of a محفوظ joining of love and sex in those books. It's exciting and it's thrilling and it's not particularly threatening because it's not overtly sexual. A lot of the physical side of it is conveyed in things like, the vampire will touch her forearm یا run a hand over skin, and she just flushes all hot and cold. And for girls, that’s a shorthand for all the feelings that they’re not ready to deal with yet." #3 That quote سے طرف کی stephen king leds to my third point, speaking as a female of this generation ( not to be feminist یا anything), i find that the entire story of twilight to be very demeaning, it makes it sound like all girls can do is not help to fall in love with a guy and if the guy were to leave her, her whole world will fall apart. #4 to be honest, i dont see much plot in the movies, it مزید of people screaming over the fact that taylor lautner has nice abs, and robert patterson is sparkly??? In HP, there is an actually story آپ can follow while twilight plot just seems to be predictable. #5 lets just be honest here, most of us here would rather watch a good battle between good and evil ( Harry Vs Voldy) while watch a girl named bella, fall for some guy and well the rest is history.
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everything آپ کہا is true and i love the picture
noobio7143 posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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^When did she say that King was a jerk solely because he doesn't support Twilight?
VampiresRevenge posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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No, I didn't mention Twilight.
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cassie-1-2-3 said:
Financially?
مزید people have bought the Harry Potter کتابیں and movies.
That is all.

I think they're both pretty much equal when it comes to any other form of success.
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thats not true, the only way in success that twilight is مزید successful. and that would be twilight saga site has مزید شائقین than HP site on FANPOP.
alisonfaith297 posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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ok.. hold on.. just stop right there.. HP کتابیں ARE WAY BETTER.. آپ can argue about the movie an i agree it tends to go back and forth but when it comes to book.. NO FEAKIN WAY! the hp کتابیں are way better, granted some peopel just bought the کتابیں for the sake of reading but HP کتابیں in the literary world is very well received unlike twilight on the other hand...
alisonfaith297 posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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Says you, not me. Sorry. I o.ly bought them because I try to complete every series I start, no matter if I like it یا not. I had no intention on reading any of the کتابیں "quickly", so a لائبریری was out of the question.
cassie-1-2-3 posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
bri-marie said:
Luck. When it comes to entertainment, that's all it really boils down to.
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luck is one part.. but being lucky can only get آپ so far...
alisonfaith297 posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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Luck is only a factor...
zanhar1 posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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Not really. There are کتابیں way better than HP (and Twilight) that are in the shadows. There are کتابیں that are worse than HP (and Twilight) that are extremely popular. J.K. (and Meyer) got lucky.
bri-marie posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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I agree, bri-marie.
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noobio7143 said:
because harry potter is better. nuff said.
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Exactly!(like your شبیہ btw ^^)
vampiressJazz posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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thanksh
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zanhar1 said:
- it's been around longer
- it's original unlike twilight, there are hundreds of vampire romances
- the شائقین seem مزید dedicated in my opinion
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There are hundreds of wizard adventures too
youknowit101 posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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^ yeah pretty much what dracofan کہا (I can't believe it! dracofan آپ make me change my opinion about آپ just from this one comment!) O_O
ClaireVoyant posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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^ Thanks? lmao
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ThePrincesTale said:
Apart from having a better plot, and better characters, and things like that, there are مزید mundane reasons- I will focus on these and try to be unbiased.

One of these is who they are both targetted for. Twilight (mostly) only appeals to teenage girls. Harry Potter, on the other hand, can be read سے طرف کی anyone in any age group, from a 6-year-old to a 90-year-old, and سے طرف کی any gender.

I think Harry Potter also stands out more. As a مزید unique story, it does not blend into all the other vampire romances as Twilight does. Harry Potter, as I see it, is quite unique in its genre. Not only this, it is more than one genre, with a hint of romance, and mystery, and horror added to the fantasy- this just aids it in its intrigue. While Twilight, I think, is pure romance.

Harry Potter is also مزید distinguished, with JK Rowling having earned مزید awards and مزید prestigious awards in literacy. This actually does help in people's choosing of a book.
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IKR!! i like buying book when i know یا have some kind of shiny medal printed on the front.. lols.. call me cheesy but i like it!
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dalilee said:
Nawl baby!! Twilight is way better than harry potter!!!! Ill admit that I love harry potter but aint no way he got twilight beat.
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^mmmmhmm?
dracofan001 posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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yeah right :P
dracofan001 posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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I agree with zanhar1.
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vampiressJazz said:
I'll make this short and sweet. Harry Potter unlike Twilight actually had a plot, and well developed characters and ideas that actually make sense unlike vampires that light up like a christmas درخت when they go out into the sun!
Also Twilight is really Cliche.

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Agreed
zanhar1 posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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If that were the case, Twilight wouldn't be successful at all. You're trying to give reasons why Twilight isn't successful, and you'll be wrong no matter what آپ say because there's no denying that Twilight IS successful.
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I think that Harry Potter has a little مزید success due to the writing and the controversy surrounding the books' intentional theme. Whereas Twilight didn't face as much, yet became successful on another level.
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noturcreeper said:
because harry isnt as much of a wuss as edward
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 because harry isnt as much of a wuss as edward
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THIS.
JaseKS posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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lmao true
noobio7143 posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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The sparkle part really ruin the horror and serious atmosphere the مصنف try to create. It's like trying to make people scared but we ended up laughing. (at least in most of the case)
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GoldnSnitch_96 said:
I havent read any of the Twilight کتابیں cause I don't want to be bashed سے طرف کی everyone at my school and the fact that I have heard too many bad things, but I watched one of the movies, and my analysis was: It went absolutely no where. There wasn't much action, and as far as romance went, I have been مزید touched سے طرف کی episodes of the Simpsons. So I guess cant really bash Twilight too much cause I dont know a great deal about it, but I guess at the end of the day, Harry Potter was مزید appealing. It appealed to me,and I love it. I find it dramatic, intense, and simply, well, EPIC. The plot is so rich and it progresses smoothly, and also I think Twilight appeals مزید to those who ...well, saying less sophisticated would be cruel, but then again, the majority of the شائقین I have met only rave on about how hot the guys are. Like really. Thats it? Hot guys? Psh.

But thats probably the مجموعی طور پر reason, it mostly appeals to horny girls, to put it bluntly and Harry Potter appeals to EVERYONE. Like seriously, anyone can read it.
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*awaits an argument*
GoldnSnitch_96 posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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It's cool, but saying stuff like that makes آپ look immature and آپ don't want that image.
zanhar1 posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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@zanhar1, correct, and especially not on a place like this.
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dracofan001 said:
why i think it is: well people can relate better to the characters in harry potter. i mean most people will read stories/ watch فلمیں based on how relatable/likeable the characters are. i mean true some people will watch فلمیں like twilight and wish they had hot guys like edward and jacob fighting over them, but most people will like to see other people going through their difficult situations and problems. Anyway the point is that "It does not do to dwell on dreams, and forget to live." --Albus Dumbledore. See twilight is not relatable. harry potter is. people like فلمیں that are relatable.

my point:

people are most likely to read کتابیں that help them get through things. they like to know (like i کہا above) that other people went through their problems and got through them. no person has the problem of vampires and werewolves fighting over them.
and this DOES have to do with the question... it is why مزید people read/like harry potter and it is مزید succesful.
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Wow, none of that applies to me at all.
cassie-1-2-3 posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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@cassie-1-2-3 i really don't care
dracofan001 posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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That's fine.
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Bubba38 said:
harry potter is مزید successful than twilight مزید multiple reasons. 1. rowling gave depth to many characters which included flaws and tht made them مزید relatable, she didnt focus just on 1 یا 2 people. 2. there was multiple angles to evry storyline...the pros and cons were included and it made ta reader really think wat was gonna happen. 3. it had مزید than 1 subject: there was love, vengence,friendship,fights within friendship and ta feeling of having a family. 4. it realted to مزید people...twilight is mostly for teenage girls where HP is loved my all ages male یا female. basically مجموعی طور پر HP connects with people on multiple levels and just has a better storyline.
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missceleb86 said:
twilight has no plot all it is bout is the fact that گھنٹی, بیل an 18 yr old girl falls in love with edward who is 108 yr old vamp and who has never fallen in love in all his yrs which is pretty stupid and that bella is so helpless all she can do is screan "EDWARD!" when he is getting thrashed سے طرف کی the volturi and when he's away she wants to kill herself. i mean like seriously girl get a life. Hp on the other hand had love, adventure, good and bad cool dangerous dementors and death eaters and it had Lord Voldemort who is the most formidable wizard.
And on IMDb which is a well known critics site twilight breaking dawn part 1 had scored 4.8 out 10 and hp 7 part 2 has scored 8.5 out of 10 and Hp also beat batman dark knight which is like a very good film. So i think enough is said
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ClaireVoyant said:
wow, so many big answer.
I'll try to answer it from different pov: the fans/fandom

- some of آپ کہا that it's because HP has been around longer. it doesn't always happen that way though.
Most of مقبول movies/books, became مقبول thanks for the fan. (i.e. سے طرف کی the amount of fanfic, doujinshi, fanart, graphic ETC) I've seen people already create a lot of fanart and fanfic for a movie that's just out this سال (ex; thor, X-men first class) because they are just THAT good.

- if people loved one movie. آپ can be sure that the fandom will grow. and the amount of fanfic/art/doujinshi will sky rocketing. for this to happen, the شائقین need a movie that not only they can enjoy while they watching it in cinema. but also have a hidden subplot/subtext that they can bring to the fandom as a plot/subplot.

-considering HP has مزید mystery, and always have unexpected surprise every time the new کتابیں came. no wonder if the شائقین have a field دن palying with the plot. oh, the possibility آپ can make in J.K.Rowling کتابیں are almost limitless... and آپ wonder why people never tired of harry potter?

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well, آپ might not understand half the thing I کہا up there...
but my point is.
Base on the fandom (what I see)

HarryPotter=
-fanfiction; HP have about 500,000 in ff.net alone not to mention other site like LJ, HexFiles,RestrictedSection, dreamwidth, etc
-Doujinshi; GUH! the amount of doujinshi the japanesse fandom made for HP alone... I've seen hundreds of it in one site alone (sadly i have no paypal)
-fanart/graphic ; are آپ kidding me? just google Harry potter in DA alone, not to mention tumblr and other site.

Twilight=
-fanfiction; about 180.000 in ff.net, and the one in LJ I heard it was not that active.
-doujinshi ; the japannesse one, i have yet to see. i have only see one graphic novel of twilight but it's official, published in america (if i remember correctly)
-fanart : quite a lot in DA but آپ have to discount the hate-art...
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twilight story was quite predictable (the princip of vampire vs werewolf has been recycled too many times). it doesn't provide the audience a new set of world that the شائقین can 'explore' like HP.
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wow, maybe a little too long... I'll ترمیم later when the internet connection a little better...
ClaireVoyant posted پہلے زیادہ سے سال ایک
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Agreed
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kk :D
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HPfan236 said:
I think it is because Twilight seems to be aimed مزید at teenage girls یا sometimes even mothers while Harry Potter extends to Children, Grown Up's, Teenagers, etc..
In my eyes harry potter also has مزید مزید moral lesson's and sends a مزید positive messages. beside's having the moral lessons HP is also full of action, adventure, suspense, and a little dash of Romance.
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brendaluvbunny said:
becuz harry potter is a timeless beautiful story about conquerin evil and twilight is about a girl who is playin 2 guys and finally piks 1 also 4 harry potter the فلمیں were made beautifully with good actors and lots of work put in 2 it while twilight has some good actors and some not so good actors and not a lot of work into it
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Skyraven said:
Harry Potter was مزید successful than Twilight in many ways. First off, it had much مزید excitement and action in it, and many of the good guys die along with the bad. In Twilight, it has a big happy 'all-of-us-survived-and-the-bad-people-are-dead' ending. People like action and thrills, they don't want to sit there and read about Edward's looks for fifty pages یا about how miserable Bella is without him.

And speaking of Edward and Bella, the characters in Harry Potter were all realistic. They had their flaws, their strengths, none of them were absolutely perfect and loved سے طرف کی everyone. Take Hermione for example. She can be annoying, یا a know-it-all, but without her, Harry and Ron would be doomed. On the contrary, Bella is perfect, beautiful, and loved سے طرف کی everyone. The منٹ she steps into her school, all of the guys want to تاریخ her. She's absolutely depressing, flawless, and cannot live without Edward سے طرف کی her side. Unlike Hermione, who's brave, independent, and willing to fight, Bella needs her guy for everything and is pretty much useless as a human. She also thinks that Edward stalking her and watching her sleep is romantic, which is a terrible example for young girls. It might trick them into believing that they cannot live without a man, that stalking is okay. It is NEVER okay!

The Harry Potter plot, even though it involves wizards and magic, is very original in the events, while Twilight is just another vampire love story. In HP, there's always danger, trials, and inner troubles the characters have to face. In Twilight, there's about five pages of action and then everything's solved. That's it.

These are HUGE reasons contributing to why Harry Potter is so much مزید successful-it has a deep, thought-out storyline that every Harry Potter پرستار can lose themselves in, realistic characters that we love and relate to, plenty of excitement and action that leaves us wondering what happens next. When our پسندیدہ characters die, we seem to never stop grieving for the loss even if it is fiction. Even when the Deathly Hallows ended and we set the book down, it seems to never really end.

That's why Harry Potter is مزید successful-it has everything a real literature lover wants. Action, adventure, a good plot, developed characters, deaths on both sides, and real romance. People do not fall in love سے طرف کی looking at each other. All of the romance in Harry Potter was spread over the years; the two started as friends, and it grew into something stronger, deeper. While Twilight may have 'hot' guys, romance and drama, all that, it only really appeals to teenage girls, while anyone can read and enjoy Harry Potter. Nobody likes an unoriginal plot, یا weak characters, no action....that's why Harry Potter was always a step ahead of Twilight in success.
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All the "bad people" did not die in Twilight.
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i agree.. hermione is a much better role model. she choice her a path to fight good and evil instead of following ron.. کتابیں DO.. کتابیں BEING A PART OF MASS MEDIA DO! I DID AND ENTIRE رپورٹ ON THIS AND STILL AM.. IT DOES MAKE AN IMPRESSION!!
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It makes an impression, but it doesn't force people to do everything people read about.
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keep_smiling said:
I think its the story matter! Harry Potter is about friendship, courage and sacrifice. Not some love triangle.J K rowling is simply marvellous! Nuf said!
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ArcticWolf said:
Harry Potter interests a greater range of people, so logically مزید people read the کتابیں and watch the movies. That's pretty much it. As others have said, I also think Harry Potter has a better plot and characters, but I really don't think that has much to do with the popularity. I think it all just comes down to basic interests.
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lollypop94 said:
- hp is unisex
- there are مزید hp کتابیں and فلمیں so مزید sales
- hp been going longer so multi-generational
- hp is less controversial
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TsubasaPotter said:
Characters in Harry Potter have their stories. I don't see that in Twilight, except Jacob, Bella, Edward. Just them? Pretty boring actually, i think Meyer should watching Korean Drama for it, if she want to make a good romance story, hehe
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annabell9122 said:
duh a harry potter is better

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