Voldemort's parents since they were under the love potion.
@cassie-1-2-3 I wouldn't really consider Ginny, Harry, or Hagrid's situations "lust". Harry and Ginny were teens. Teens have raging hormones. Ginny was in a relationship with Dean. Lust is when you're scarily obsessed with something. Ginny was only caught making out with Dean once. Harry only kissed Cho once. Grawp was Hagrid's brother and he was protecting him. Grawp was being abused where he used to live. All Hagrid wanted was for him to learn some English. There wasn't really any lust involved :/
I wasn't talking about Harry's relationship with Cho, I was talking about Harry's interactions with girls he didn't know.
I didn't even imply that Hagrid was lusting over his brother... I was talking about Hagrid and the LADY giant. I can't remember her name. She appeared on the fourth book for the tri-wizard competition.
Bella trying to have sex with Edward, kissing Edward, and overall having a good time with Edward is hormones. Bella jumping off a cliff to see Edward is lust and riding dangerous motorcycles is lust. There's a huge difference.
When was Harry sneaking out with girls he didn't really know other than Cho? How is this lust?
Hagrid and Madam Maxine's relationship isn't lust either. They were just dating. Just because he sneaked out into the woods to see her? Bella sneaks her boyfriend into her room every night.
i think that twilight is basically made up of lust, but Harry Potter has a few things here and there. I don't however consider Harry and Ginny's relationship as full of lust. they look after each other-and are genuinely in love, which is more than i can say for Bella and Edward. (Bella never does anything, just lies there and lets the sparkly mosquito and shape shifter do all the work!). However i think there is a small part in the book- Voldemorts mother was lusting after his father, so badly she gave him a love potion. she watched him ride home everyday, which is a bit creepy, but not so much as a mosquito creeping through your room through the window like some sort of sparkly ninja.
So Bella jumped off the cliff into the ocean because she was lusty? I don't see how that had anything to do with lust.
I can't remember exactly. There were various moments where Harry would flirt with different girls back when he was headstrong about his popularity. He would suggest meeting somewhere private, but was continuously interrupted. I don't think it was very likely that he wanted to meet up with these girls who obviously had some interest in him just to get familiar with their personalities.
It wasn't a major plot event, so it's really no bog deal.
No, it's not "Just because he sneaked out into the woods to see her". It was more than that. It was just the way they interacted with each other in general. It's just my opinion, anyways.
I'm not even saying that lust is a bad thing.
Bella never does anything, just lies there and lets the sparkly mosquito and shape shifter do all the work!
What?... Bella's sexual activity was never described in that much detail. Plus, she was never physical with Jacob.
Yes, Harry Potter reflects reality. In reality there is lust, therefore it is not a bad thing if it doesn't flood all over the book like Twilight.
Cassie-1-2-3, thank you so much for giving me sick mental images. Bellatrix and Voldemort never had any sexual interactions. Bella doesn't exactly 'lust' over Voldemort, but it's not love either; it's obsession. Voldemort never showed any interest in her because he doesn't love OR lust. God. Where did you read the part about them cuddling each other. Because unfortunately, you're ruining Bellatrix's reputation, not to mention Voldemort's too (meaning you're insulting my two favourite characters).
Perhaps Ginny lusted after people. Actually, make that a confirmation. She did lust after people. So much, in fact, that to me she's another shallow, feather-head. She had several boyfriends and was definitely not the best example of a studious young lady. However, I have read the Harry Potter series six times and not once have I seen Harry lust after another person. He cares for them, but he doesn't make subtle attempts to 'sneak away with giggling girls he hardly knew'.
A guy named Hagrid lusting after his giant lady friend? This is getting ridiculous. Cassie, are you suggesting every type of affection is lust? He was a lonely man, and he was attracted to her. Besides, I wonder how you managed to draw your conclusion when the book didn't even have anything more than ten pages on that.
And. Aberforth. Did. Not. Lust. After. Goats. Actually, that's really sweet now that you've suggested it. But Aberforth really didn't. Apparently, he was attracted to them like a moth is attracted to fire...no offense to the fire.
@cassie-1-2-3 It's lustful because she jumped off a cliff/rode on the motorcycles only to see Edward. She didn't do it for her own entertainment. She was so obsessed with Edward that she was willing to do anything to see him even if it means putting her own life in danger. Overly obsessive=lust.
Harry wasn't overly obsessed with sneaking out with girls (you're speaking of Half Blood Prince, right? He was pretty popular in that book. Either way he was attracted to Ginny mostly). He's just working on his game. I don't see any lust in that.
With Hagrid, IDK I didn't see any lust. Maybe I'll go back and read/watch it.
Yes, there was lust, but not as well written or as dweled on as in Twilight in my opinion. Which is not a bad thing as HP is mainly a kids adventure book as opposed to the romance that is Twilight. Harry lusted after Cho. He didn't know her well, he thought she was pretty and even though she was interested in someone else, he still pined over her. That's why their relationship never worked out - there was nothing there but physical attraction, and after their uninspired kiss they just sort of went their seperate ways. All the girls lusted after Victor Krum and the boys after the Velas specially Ron. There was also lust in Ron and Lavender's relationship, Ginny and all her boyfriends. As to Aberforth an his goats, it is implied that there certainly was something untoward in his "attraction" towards them. JK's response to an 8 year old's question as to what exactly the inappropriate charm he'd cast on the goat was, further added to people's suspicions on the kind of "love" he had for his pets. And continuing on that vein, a few of the divination students certainly seemed to be lustfully attracted to their half horse Divination teacher in OotP.
Helena - It was mentioned somewhere that Voldemort used Bellatrix to fulfil his physical needs because it was convenient. She was there and more than willing, so why not? It was there in a very subtle manor because it is a children's series. Maybe it went over your head. I never mentioned "cuddling".
Nope, I don't think all affection is lust, if I did, I would have said Ron and Hermione is lust, James and Lily is lust, Harry and Ginny is lust, everysingle couple in the series is lust.
To me, it didn't seem like Hagrid and what's her name were serious at all, but it was implied that they had something physical. 10 pages is plenty. I really shouldn't need very many pages in order to come to a simple conclusion.
Aberforth with the goat... if it's not lust, I have no idea what it was. I find it very difficult to believe that he got to know the goats on a personal level and he and the goats developed a romantic relationship.
Alexisin - I'm fairly certain that we're talking about sexual lusting, but if not, then there are TONS more Harry Potter examples.
Harry lusted to kill Voldemort.
Voldemort lusted to Kill Harry.
Dobby lusted to help Harry.
Harry lusted to go to Hogwarts.
Hermione lusted after knowledge.
Ron lusted over Hermione's safety.
Snape lusted over protecting Harry.
The list goes on. All of these characters put themselves in danger to satisfy their "lust" as well.
Voldemort used Bellatrix for sexual needs? I thought it was Bellatrix doing the lusting.
Voldemort is cold towards her and only sees her as his servant. I don't think he would use her for anything sexual, just to get the job done.
It was only implied that Abernath (forgot his name) lusted over goats. Dumbledore said he put a charm on goats, I think.
cassie-1-2-3
this is what lust is: (intransitive verb) 1. to have a strong desire(noun)1. strong sexual desire 2. any strong desire.
also THERE IS NO WHERE LUST IN THE BOOKS OR THE FILMS! I THINK YOU ARE CONFUSING LOVE FOR LUST! AND IF YOU ONLY READ THE BOOKS then you have notices that there is no lust but true love
Er, the word 'lust' is actually used to describe the state of emotions brought on by love potions. And we know of love potions being used on at least two occasions in the books, one of them being on a main character. So yes, there is lust in the books.
I think the real problem with the whole Twilight vs Harry Potter thing comes in because, while lust is to some extent in Harry Potter, it is nowhere near as prevalent as it is within the Twilight series, which seems to be entirely about a young teenage girl lusting after a blood drinking hundred-year-old, and seems to treat it like it's love. I think people assume, then, that when we say there's lust in Harry Potter, we mean it to that extent - which we don't.
There were these two characters named Voldemort and Bellatrix. Voldemort used Bellatrix for his sexual needs.
There's also a girl named Ginny. She loved making out with boys in dark places. She also liked teasing her brothers for not being sexually active.
There was also a guy named Harry. He made subtle attempts to sneak away with giggling girls he hardly knew.
There was also a guy named Hagrid, he seemed to have a lustful relationship with his lady giant friend.
Dumbledore had a relative who lusted over goats.
@cassie-1-2-3 I wouldn't really consider Ginny, Harry, or Hagrid's situations "lust". Harry and Ginny were teens. Teens have raging hormones. Ginny was in a relationship with Dean. Lust is when you're scarily obsessed with something. Ginny was only caught making out with Dean once. Harry only kissed Cho once. Grawp was Hagrid's brother and he was protecting him. Grawp was being abused where he used to live. All Hagrid wanted was for him to learn some English. There wasn't really any lust involved :/
I wasn't talking about Harry's relationship with Cho, I was talking about Harry's interactions with girls he didn't know.
I didn't even imply that Hagrid was lusting over his brother... I was talking about Hagrid and the LADY giant. I can't remember her name. She appeared on the fourth book for the tri-wizard competition.
When was Harry sneaking out with girls he didn't really know other than Cho? How is this lust?
Hagrid and Madam Maxine's relationship isn't lust either. They were just dating. Just because he sneaked out into the woods to see her? Bella sneaks her boyfriend into her room every night.
I can't remember exactly. There were various moments where Harry would flirt with different girls back when he was headstrong about his popularity. He would suggest meeting somewhere private, but was continuously interrupted. I don't think it was very likely that he wanted to meet up with these girls who obviously had some interest in him just to get familiar with their personalities.
It wasn't a major plot event, so it's really no bog deal.
No, it's not "Just because he sneaked out into the woods to see her". It was more than that. It was just the way they interacted with each other in general. It's just my opinion, anyways.
I'm not even saying that lust is a bad thing.
Bella never does anything, just lies there and lets the sparkly mosquito and shape shifter do all the work!
What?... Bella's sexual activity was never described in that much detail. Plus, she was never physical with Jacob.
Cassie-1-2-3, thank you so much for giving me sick mental images. Bellatrix and Voldemort never had any sexual interactions. Bella doesn't exactly 'lust' over Voldemort, but it's not love either; it's obsession. Voldemort never showed any interest in her because he doesn't love OR lust. God. Where did you read the part about them cuddling each other. Because unfortunately, you're ruining Bellatrix's reputation, not to mention Voldemort's too (meaning you're insulting my two favourite characters).
Perhaps Ginny lusted after people. Actually, make that a confirmation. She did lust after people. So much, in fact, that to me she's another shallow, feather-head. She had several boyfriends and was definitely not the best example of a studious young lady. However, I have read the Harry Potter series six times and not once have I seen Harry lust after another person. He cares for them, but he doesn't make subtle attempts to 'sneak away with giggling girls he hardly knew'.
A guy named Hagrid lusting after his giant lady friend? This is getting ridiculous. Cassie, are you suggesting every type of affection is lust? He was a lonely man, and he was attracted to her. Besides, I wonder how you managed to draw your conclusion when the book didn't even have anything more than ten pages on that.
And. Aberforth. Did. Not. Lust. After. Goats. Actually, that's really sweet now that you've suggested it. But Aberforth really didn't. Apparently, he was attracted to them like a moth is attracted to fire...no offense to the fire.
Harry wasn't overly obsessed with sneaking out with girls (you're speaking of Half Blood Prince, right? He was pretty popular in that book. Either way he was attracted to Ginny mostly). He's just working on his game. I don't see any lust in that.
With Hagrid, IDK I didn't see any lust. Maybe I'll go back and read/watch it.
Nope, I don't think all affection is lust, if I did, I would have said Ron and Hermione is lust, James and Lily is lust, Harry and Ginny is lust, everysingle couple in the series is lust.
To me, it didn't seem like Hagrid and what's her name were serious at all, but it was implied that they had something physical. 10 pages is plenty. I really shouldn't need very many pages in order to come to a simple conclusion.
Aberforth with the goat... if it's not lust, I have no idea what it was. I find it very difficult to believe that he got to know the goats on a personal level and he and the goats developed a romantic relationship.
Harry lusted to kill Voldemort.
Voldemort lusted to Kill Harry.
Dobby lusted to help Harry.
Harry lusted to go to Hogwarts.
Hermione lusted after knowledge.
Ron lusted over Hermione's safety.
Snape lusted over protecting Harry.
The list goes on. All of these characters put themselves in danger to satisfy their "lust" as well.
Voldemort is cold towards her and only sees her as his servant. I don't think he would use her for anything sexual, just to get the job done.
It was only implied that Abernath (forgot his name) lusted over goats. Dumbledore said he put a charm on goats, I think.
Ron/Lavender, 'nuff said. >.>
this is what lust is: (intransitive verb) 1. to have a strong desire(noun)1. strong sexual desire 2. any strong desire.
also THERE IS NO WHERE LUST IN THE BOOKS OR THE FILMS! I THINK YOU ARE CONFUSING LOVE FOR LUST! AND IF YOU ONLY READ THE BOOKS then you have notices that there is no lust but true love
I think the real problem with the whole Twilight vs Harry Potter thing comes in because, while lust is to some extent in Harry Potter, it is nowhere near as prevalent as it is within the Twilight series, which seems to be entirely about a young teenage girl lusting after a blood drinking hundred-year-old, and seems to treat it like it's love. I think people assume, then, that when we say there's lust in Harry Potter, we mean it to that extent - which we don't.
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