Critical Analysis of Twilight Club
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This مضمون is an appeal to all Twilight شائقین out there, I invite آپ all to think over your good and bad actions here on fanpop and contemplate them.

I have seen and compared examples of the appearances of the fandoms Harry Potter and respectively Twilight when criticism appear in each other’s sites on fanpop and I am astounded سے طرف کی the comparatively aggressive tone the Twilight شائقین carried when they respond to the کہا criticism.

Compare the responses of: link

And: link ;

Notes are to be made that both internet addresses were found سے طرف کی searching for “Harry Potter sucks” and “Twilight sucks”. I will let آپ draw your own conclusions while bearing in mind that these results are not representative for either fandom.

I recently came over this: link
while browsing fanpop and was truly shocked and much saddened to find so many aggressive and outright illegal threats being made upon the originator of this question. Why do شائقین of Twilight feel like they have to defend their fandom so ferociously? Why do they impose threats of death and destruction upon people who dislike their fandom? To me this is comparable to religious fanatism who spawns equally hostile threats.

Compare the following partial quotes and quotes, preserved in their original spelling:

“Satan worshipping scum…Please die and go to hell…I hope آپ get a painful disease like rectal cancer and die a slow painful death.” – Cited partially and out of context from “The God Delusion”, pp 243, Richard Dawkins.

“We will not go quietly away. If in the future that requires violence just remember آپ brought it on. My رائفل is loaded.” - Cited out of context from “The God Delusion”, pp 244, Richard Dawkins.

“AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!! I COULD SHOOT U!!!! GET UR UGLY MEAN OLD SELF AAAAAWWWWWAAAAAAAAAY FROM THIS FANSITE RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWW!!!!” – Cited from link ; the commentary of the question, stephmfan215.

“stephmfan215 Ill help u kill here thats stupid to come on here if u dont like the saga now dont leave any مزید سوالات and GET OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!” – Cited from same ذریعہ as the گزشتہ one, twimenfan.

“u r stupid for being n the twilight پرستار club so get out
I HOPE U ROT IN HELL AFTER ALL OF THEE PEOPLE KILL U AND I ALSO HOPE TAT U GET EATEN BUY NEWBORNS U BUM FACE” - Cited from link ; the commentary of the question, twiliholic17.

Now I would think that the intention of those quotes are mutually inseparable, death and destruction. Agree یا disagree?

Why be so hostile? Twilight fans? In comparison the worst تبصرہ to link is “YOU.NEED.ENGLISH.LESSONS.” - Addicted2TV.
Then isn’t there a great and dishonourable discrepancy in regards of civility when one compares Twilight and Harry Potter fans? At least when آپ look at the لنکس provided?

What does one make of the frequent fallacious arguments made in favour of Twilight? The good looking Edward and Jacob are frequently inferred سے طرف کی شائقین who believe this is a winning argument against criticism. Well, when one thinks through it properly, it’s not a winning argument, it’s fallacious.
What is a fallacious argument? Well, آکسفورڈ English Dictionary Online defines Fallacy as:
noun (plural fallacies)
•    a mistaken belief, especially one based on unsound arguments: the notion that the camera never lies is a fallacy
•    Logic a failure in reasoning which renders an argument invalid
•    [mass noun] faulty reasoning: the potential for fallacy which lies behind the notion of self-esteem
I would like to point out definition two: Logic a failure in reasoning which renders an argument invalid.
Yes, your argument is invalid, not applicable, a failure in reasoning. And as such can be discounted from the discussion.

What is the fallacious part of the argument “Edward is good looking; therefore Twilight is a good book.”? Well, it is an non sequitur fallacy, the statement/conclusion is not supported سے طرف کی the argument; and therefore it is unsound. For who would believe that a statement is valid when it is unsupported سے طرف کی the argument?
سے طرف کی the way: The آکسفورڈ English Dictionary Online defines Non Sequitur as:
•    A conclusion یا statement that does not logically follow from the گزشتہ argument یا statement.

Summa Summarum: Dear Rabid Twilight fans, we are happily tired of being threatened and bothered سے طرف کی your fallacious statements. “Quousque tandem abutere, amici Twilightiae, patientia nostra? For how much more, Twilight fans, will آپ abuse our patience?” Then can we not coexist in civility? Please?
And to the civil Twilight fans, we are very much grateful for your existence and hopefully آپ will continue do the good work, because we mutually know that respect is two-ways.
After reading the post "Bella as a heroine should be illegal" سے طرف کی bendaimmortal, it got me thinking. Obviously, no-one would consider Bella سوان, ہنس a heroine. If آپ do, آپ have got a really great deal of imagination, یا a warped sense of the world. Because, and I'm sure most Twilight شائقین would agree, the girl didn't do anything at all. Save being overly dramatic and being the damsel in distress.

What about the Cullens then? What about Carlisle, Alice, Esme, Jasper, Rosalie and Emmett? What about He-Who-Sparkles-In-Broad-Daylight? Would they be considered heroes/heroines?

No.

I say that the Cullens...
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Note: It’s important for me to communicate that I don’t know the مصنف of Twilight یا her family personally and I do not intend them any insult; this مضمون is purely academic speculation inspired سے طرف کی a story which will remain a timeless work of art. It is the emotional accessibility of the work which makes commentary such as this possible. I may be projecting the whole thing… But that’s exactly why Twilight is so successful, because it invites us so welcomingly into the story!

Every پرستار knows the story of the Twilight Saga.
There are many theories as to what makes the story such a pop-culture...
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Soo, I read Twilight in 2005 and seriously thought it was the best thing I'd ever read, and never thought I'd read anything better. How young and stupidly naive I was!

When I first bought it, it was treasured, as were New Moon, Eclipse, Breaking Dawn & all the money wasting merchandise I purchased to. But over the past 2 years, I've seen the پرستار base grow and grow and GROW into something that is just pretty hectic and down right ridiculous.

I personally feel sorry for the cast, especially Robert Pattinson. Poor guy, can't even walk out his front door without being mobbed. There's such thing...
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Disclaimer: The عنوان of the مضمون may seem to be a bit strange, as most of my مضامین that I have گیا کیا پوسٹ on here are usually issues I have with the Twilight Saga, but I decided that myself as an anti, wanted to write about things I actually do like about the series. Guarantee, I actually do think Stephanie Meyer did create some characters in this series, and I just wanted to فہرست my سب, سب سے اوپر 8. This will be in no particular order.
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Jasper Hale

If hypothetically, I were to meet the Cullen, I would think that Jasper would be the only one I probably be remotely afraid of in any sort of way. Or...
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A hilarious BD spoof. Jacob is hungry for Renesmee's love...and a McFlurry, :P
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I’ve read many lists pointing out Twilight “Plot Holes”, but مزید often than not, the lists aren’t very valid at all. Half of them are usually just complaints, pointing out something they don’t like about Twilight (Example:” Why would vampires go to high school?”, یا “Why does Bella have so many friends?”). The rest are just factually incorrect, یا can be logically theorized. These are usually followed سے طرف کی “Stephenie Meyer obviously ditched history class”, یا “Hasn’t Stephenie ever heard of logic?”, یا my personal favorite, “I would know, I had a lesson about it...
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Contains strong language. It's not an anti video if آپ don't mind the lulz.
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*Most I made up, a few I admit I saw on a video but I stated these ways in my own words so it is therefore not plagiarism*

1) Tell a fangirl that you'll send her a T-shirt with rare pictures of Edward Cullen on the front and back in two days, make sure she gets extremely excited. When the two days go by, send her a T-shirt with pics of Hagrid from Harry Potter instead.
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2) Tell the fangirls that all gay men sparkle.
3) Tell the fangirls that the Quielete werewolves have major anger management issues if they turn into beasts when they got irritable...
4) Ask them for their Twilight merchandise,...
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I think this spot and the majority of it's members have worked to ensure that when we talk about things we dislike about the series it's things we feel strongly about یا have an actual point to make, not just mindless hating and that when we poke fun we try to keep an eye on the line between fun mockery and plain rudeness, even though that line can be debatable یا hard to see. Still, there are some cases when I can see شائقین feeling left out, singled out یا wanting out completely, and I don't like that. Part of the problem is something us antis can't really help with, which is that not many...
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I'm just sayin' Bella is one of the worst role models ever when it comes to love, sex and life choices and should not have allowed to be published in any shape یا form. I mean, when she's made the heroine of the story and marketted at teenage girls.

1. She's obsessively in love with a control freak stalker.

Unfortunately it seems the vast majority of the Twilight fangirls are too with the very same freak.

2. She wants him so bad that she'll abandone everyone else she loves so that she could be with him. Even when it means she'll practically have to become a blood-drinking corpse.

(The movie 'Eclipse'...
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I felt a compelling need to write this مضمون because recently I have found myself مزید constantly thrust into situations and debates where I have to defend the Harry Potter fandom against the Twilight fandom, which I despise so much. My best friend and her family are actually major pro-Twilight fans. This past evening made me realize that there are so many reasons why Harry Potter is much مزید awesome than Twilight, and its not just the obvious ones either. Thus, I give آپ all the evidence آپ will ever need to successfully pwn a Twilight پرستار trying to bring your fandom down.

Obvious Reasons...
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 OMG she totally چرا لیا, چوری کی that سیب, ایپل from Adam and Eve!!!
OMG she totally stole that apple from Adam and Eve!!!
The people on this spot who know me will be aware I'm an anti, but I think a part of using this spot fairly means me not only talking when I have something against Twilight, but also fessing up when I don't think Meyer/the books/actros/etc are in the wrong. I've heard a lot about how many of Meyer's plot points are too similar to those in other vampire/fantasy stories. Well, that's never the way it's put. It's usually closer to "she totally ripped off _____. That's a stolen idea!" and I wanted to talk about why I actually disagree with most of those accusations. I say 'most of' and not 'all...
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1:57-2:44 Have I کہا how much I love this man?
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