long story...just ant to see poples opinons

Never! That's just disgusting!!

No, I don't believe it's right if you're aware that what you're doing is wrong. But it's not all that uncommon for younger siblings to experiment.

Okay I'm sorry but I have a brother close to my age and I can't even think about that.....I mean YUCK!

Apparently, in this society it's not okay. Personally, I think if they love each other, there should be no reason they couldn't be together.

I'm just going to copy and paste an answer I left on one of your questions about this, because I have numerous thoughts on this and not much time to type and explicate them;

The sexual relationship between siblings is always known as taboo; it's called incest, imbreeding, sexual abuse depending on the older sibling's age, and is simply seen as disgusting. This type of love between siblings was in all ways seen as forbidden. At first, I completely agreed with all who thought this. Mainly for two reasons; 1) Well, to me it was just simply disturbing. You grow up with this particular person....maybe even develop in the womb with him/her....and go through many hardships and enjoyment with him/her as children. But once your reach your teenage years or adulthood; you start having sex with him/her? That would seem quite awkward at the least. My second reason is the children that can result from this type of affair. Now I'm not trying to say that a child borne from something like this is a "mistake". I whole heartedly believe that no child is a "mistake". But I am concerned about what a child born from any type of incestuous relationship will face during his or her life. Children from incest are known to have severe deformities due to the DNA of his/her parents being so familiar. Also, if one were to find out that the child's parents were siblings, father and daughter, mother and son, relatives in any area....imagine the stigma that child will carry. Numerous people will end up knowing (because we all know how much of a gossiper each person can be) about how this child was born, and of course many would create harsh judgments on the child and his/her family. This will more than likely emotionally traumatize the child.

My main reasons....it's extremity in being exotic and my great concerns for a child born from incest...brought me the conclusion to be completely against something like this.

But as time went by, I slowly began to wonder....a brother and sister in love is seen as disturbing. But why? Besides the only feelings that I felt, what else makes a sexual relationship so stigmatized? Is this issue really as forbidden as we sometimes make it seem, or could this type of thing actually be....okay? What if we're abusing the rights to love?

Now, I may be looked upon as completely insane right now by readers.

But, this is honestly my opinion.

And my opinion is in the middle ground.

Parts of me say "NO!" to a brother-sister love relationship, and other parts of me simply ask, "Why?"

^^But see for me that's what makes it all the more disturbing.

There is no "real" reason WHY. It's just something that you can tell is wrong even without being told. Because I mean no one ever tells their kids "don't have sex with each other" - but still your aware that's it weird and disgusting and "wrong".

It's like it's encoded in you from birth, now obviously there are some exceptions mostly with siblings not raised together, but there are always exceptions.

But the fact that there seems to be no logical reason it's considered wrong and that it's more just something your whole mind shudders at, just makes me think that it's even more wrong. Now I know that makes no sense rationally but hey it makes sense to me, what can I say?

It's wrong because: you know it's wrong without ever being told it's wrong. I reckon nature is telling you something.

That actually does make sense to me. If you meant that our nature tells us it's wrong, that would make perfect sense to me. But I still wonder if other reasons to why it's wrong are still present.

Actually, SG1-090, I read something about how you remember people that you grew up with (from really young, like before you're 4-5 years old) are supposed to be family. It's like nature's way to make sure the genepool does not become polluted.

To me it explaines that a lot of people, who grew up together, never see eachover as possible partners. 'It's like he/she is my brother/sister, I've known him/her since I was 2!' And how that even seems gross, just like having sex with your brother/sister.

(ofcourse there are also people who grew up with eachother and who later marry and become very happy, but still the thing I described happens a lot too.)

"There is no "real" reason WHY. It's just something that you can tell is wrong even without being told."

People say the same thing about homosexuality, FYI.

Yeah but in the case of homophobia it's not really true though. A lot of people against homosexuality have a reason, for example religion or parental influence. It's a taught behaviour, not an instinct. The majority of people who dislike homosexuality do need to be told to (even if they feel the reasons they are told to dislike it are valid, they are still told), but the majority of people who are against incest do not need to be told they should be.

Mermaid-tail how do you know it isn't programed into them from a early age. How do you know they aren't discouraged from it just like homosexuality?

Because if the only thing keeping the majority of people disliking incest was having to be raised to then more parents would have to actively discourage their children, but they don't. I'm against incest, nobody ever had to tell me it wasn't ok. I've never heard of anyone who was told, or any parent who felt the need to tell their kids it wasn't ok. It's different from homophobia because many homophobic people can actually tell you who told them homosexuality was wrong, a lot of people cite religion or upbringing when asked, that's how you know it's a taught behaviour, look at society and you see it being taught all over the place, but you don't see it about this, because it doesn't need to be taught, we (or most people) just feel that way without anyone saying. That's the difference.

The People that Picked Yes, You are sick people. They are you Brother/Sister. I may not have any Brothers but, I have Step-Brothers and Not being blood I wouldn't even think of this.

thespikedturtle, It is wrong

No!! It's just.....wrong!! :O

I think people should be allowed to do whatever they like. Anything short of having a child together would be okay in my book. Having a kid would be inbreeding and that would be detrimental to the species, but other than that, I don't see why it should be anyone else's business what they do.

For the record, I think incest sick and nasty, and I really don't understand what's going on inside the head of someone who would do that---however, it's not harming anyone. Which makes it not wrong.

I think it's kind of weird but no one should be told who they can or can't love...

Well that's weird but attraction or love can take place for anyone in anyone's mind....you can't say that they are wrong...yeah somewhat they are and yeah having a sexual relationship btw bro and sis is an extreme case but it's neither unusual for blood relatives to feel an overwhelming attraction.

In public, at least, they seem remarkably unfazed by what they have done. And in some senses, of course, they needn't be. So it's like i'm unsure but i think maybe yes!

Between i agree with sapherequeen!

When I think of something like that, all my instincts are just screaming that its wrong, disgusting, disturbed and so on. I see sapherequeen's point, i really do, but I still can't support or even give the benefit of a doubt to such a relationship. I just... can't.

Its just gross & wrong & should never be done

sapherequeen;

.....Huh???

As long as it doesn't harm anyone--if the relationship is consensual--I have no right to stop people from following their hearts and neither do you.

Because "yuck" is unreasonable. The "wisdom of repugnance" isn't very wise at all.

I picked yes because they're isn't a doesn't matter button. Also, think about it, what is right, what is wrong, it's a philosophical question, sure. But do they really exist, for that matter good or evil. (people can't even decide what's right and what's wrong, good bad etc., my good is your bad my bad is your good) Basically it's "wrong" because we naturally developed a disgust reaction to it to avoid mixing genes that are too close. But if you and your sibling or other really close opposite sex relative, mom or dad for example, were the only two left, and you wanted to repopulate, would you be opposed to it then? Just a musing.

Honestly though, if two siblings love each other, and they are careful, use contraception, and aren't in anyone's face about it, and no one else knows, why should it matter if they're happy? For that matter, parents and their children. Hell a lot of places still marry two first cousins.

Honestly I don't care what you do. As long as you don't affect my life.

I don't think it is right.

My decision comes down to a basic formula, where I ask myself a series of questions. First, is there a "yuck" factor? Absolutely, there is something that just screams wrong here. Is it justified? Partly. We don't engage in incestuous relationships like this because it would cause tremendous genetic harms. However, those only apply to propogation, so it's less the issue here. Is there something harmful coming from this particular case? Moral outrage is all I can think of, and simply disliking something because it seems wrong is not reason enough to label it as empirically wrong. Hence my answer.

I just don't like the dynamic of incest at all, I'm sorry if I offend anyone but there is a reason why it's illegal.

There's a reason why an incestuous relationship producing children is illegal. The only reason I know why incestuous relationships in general are illegal is because of the yuck factor. If you can give me a reason why that isn't true, I'd like to hear it.

@hetalia The only reason it is illegal is mainly due to the moral outrage and it's stance in society. It's no different than polygamy,pedophilia,homosexuality or anything that is an extreme relationship. (Aka NOT happening often as most common relationships) The reasons why these extremes are mainly due to society rules. Sure you can have genetic deficiencies if incest were to happen but that doesn't happen as often as you may think it does. It's just a stereotype. Sorta like how some people believe gays is the cause of the AIDS virus. Which isn't true. NOT every LGBT person is the cause of it yet it is a stereotype. In my opinion. LOVE is LOVE is LOVE. If you agree with homosexuality because of love or free will but you say polygamy can't happen or incest can't happen even if they are in love. That is very hypocritical. What they are doing do not affect us yet many people feel they must enforce society's rules on other people. There are alot of things I don't agree with but that doesn't mean I should put my morality upbringing on anyone else. That isn't ethical in my opinion. Even if the incest partners aren't in love yet they want to screw around it should be their choice to do it. Just because a group of people think it is wrong doesn't mean that is the finite law and nothing can overturn it. People were saying interracial relationships was wrong and now people are starting to accept gay marriage. Who's to say down the road incest relationships won't be the norm? Or for that matter anything else that is extreme. After all whether it is illegal or not that doesn't stop them from doing it. Look at drug dealers. It is illegal to smuggle drugs yet they do it and some of them never get caught.

My point is. I do not want to impose my right and wrong morality on anyone. They should be free to do whatever they choose to do without any conflict.

For that matter this isn't just directed at you but to everyone who believes incest is wrong.

BTW when I say pedophilia I am not talking about child abuse. Not every pedophile abuses children. Pedophilia just means the attraction or liking children. I mean people get upset when a 17 year old is with a 30 year old yet the child will turn to be an adult in a year. It's stupid. Even if the child is 15 or something. There are tons of countries which have their age of consent lower than the USA and yet they do not have the same problems as Americans. Even Canada or neighbor's age of consent is 14.

^You do make a very good point blindbandit
Well....In some ways I do agree it's ok (when it comes to love) in other ways I think it's not. But in the end it does not affect me. So even if I may agree or not agree with it on many aspects, in the end that is the choice of the siblings.

And who knows, maybe incest will be accepted one day. People use to start riots over interracial relationships and now it is rare in modern society. Someday I think it will be the same for homosexuality, and then maybe after that it will be incest. *shrugs*

I honestly have no idea where I really stand at this. But, it's still their lives and their choices.

Yes, personally I find it distasteful. However, I don't really care if others do it - when I say I think it is distasteful, that is because I wouldn't engage in such activity myself. However, I have no business telling others what they can and can't do. Hence my answer.

WTF KIND OF QUESTION IS THIS OF COURSE ITS FUCKING WRONG!!!!!
YOU HAVE SICK MINDS PEOPLE!

^Why is it wrong?

Heh, it's easy to tell who the debater is here. Lt, note how bri-Marie is using a very important and very simple question in how she views these questions - why? There's a lot of things out there that we take for granted as being good or bad, often without adequate reason to do so. You look at this situation and blindly say no because that's what you've been taught - incestuous love is an evil that should not exist. Your ardent hatred of it is obviously visceral, and you probably would shrug off any logical arguments for it. That's because of conditioning you've received, the same kind of conditioning you rail against so vociferously when you're pointing out the harms of religion. In effect, your answer to this question disproves many of your other points that religion is the sole source of closed-minded people.

I think that's interesting.

@Lt_Pupster
Any real reasons instead of just pointless insults that do nothing to prove your argument.?

@Whiteflame. I think you make a good point. In fact, I believe that you should have even said 'touche' right at the end of your observations. He disproved his own hatred reasons on religion

@BP

Heh, indeed.

As the cat in the hat would say, "THATS DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!'

^Why.

@RedRaven. When making a comment on a poll like this (particularly when the poll is located in the Debate club) you should give a reason why you feel that way, instead of making a showy comment in caps that seems to display your distaste for the subject... The question is, why do you consider it to be distasteful (it doesn't matter if you do or don't find it distasteful, its the manner in which you answer the question that shows).

Well love is love. But it is... very unique to love someone blood related to you. On one hand it goes against religious morals on the other not everyone believes in that. On one hand love comes in all forms, who are we to decide what types are allowed and what types are not? I was going to pick unsure, but I think I lean more towards yes because one can't decide whom he/she is attracted to, to a degree. Love is something that just happens, one can't help whom his/her heart calls out to. I also don't think people should be allowed to put restrictions on love. It's really none of our business whom another loves, unless of course it directly effects
you.

@jessie The People that Picked Yes, You are sick people. They are you Brother/Sister. I may not have any Brothers but, I have Step-Brothers and Not being blood I wouldn't even think of this.

We are not sick people, not at all. I for one think it's more sick to put a restriction on love than it is to support love in all forms, strange and different or normal and common. People having unpopular opinions is not sick; it's--well--just that, having an opinion. If you want sick you should search up Jeffrey Dahmer or recall the actions of Adolf Hitler. I too have siblings, both a male and female. No I don't love him in a sexual sense, but I won't judge someone who does view their sibling like so. I simply like to keep an open mind and don't believe in judging people for things that are none of my business.

@Lt WTF KIND OF QUESTION IS THIS OF COURSE ITS FUCKING WRONG!!!!!
YOU HAVE SICK MINDS PEOPLE!

Please let off the caps lock button. No need to cuss, that pretty much always makes your point not as...valid, so to speak, as it otherwise would have been. Care to elaborate on why? Again we are not sick minded, refer to my response to jessie.

@Zanhar. Heh, a typical 'LT' comment... I wouldn't even bother waiting for a reply from him... Even if he does, it'll just be something silly.

I agree with what you said. It kinda is more sick to put a restriction on love. In fact, because it isn't a concrete thing, but abstract, people really shouldn't try and do that... No-one really has any right to tell others what to do, nor ostracise those that choose to do something like this.

I think love should be free to blossom in whatever way it shall be... No restrictions, no nothing. It either exists, or doesn't.

I could hope. But you're probably right, he usually doesn't respond.

Exactly. Though I wouldn't love my sibling like that, who am I to tell others they can't.

So do I, love come in all forms and should do so freely.

Indeed. Glad we came to another momentous agreement. XD. I think, from what I wrote back to your response, I just came up with a new idea for my motto. Haha.

We tend to do that often. I find myself sharing a lot of the same view points as you. What's your new motto? xD

That bit on the end of my second-to-last post. Haha. I was trying to find where I wrote that and now I have. Thanks, Zanhar, because you replied back, I figured out where it was. You rock! XD

By the way, yeah, you do seem to share very similar viewpoints to me, including how awesome Ed and Al are, right? Haha.

Got it. No problem lol, glad I could help. :P Don't you just hate it when you can't find that one darn post sparkling among the others you've made!?

Oh I love Ed. Al is adorable. My favorite character is Lust though. I love Lust...an odd statement indeed. :3

Yes, I do hate it. It's always the one you want to find, but you just can't think to look after you've looked in the logical place and found nothing.

Heh, my thoughts exactly. I started watching Brotherhood the other day - it is kinda better than the original. But, yeah, I already knew that. Lol. I've seen the stuff you write about her on the FMA club. XDDD

Right, so frustrating. I'm actually going to be embarking on one of those quests for my newest debate question.

I like the original better personally (more Lust) but they are both great. Have you seen the articles yet. I don't quite know what I was thinking upon typing them.

Oh, I feel your pain. I spent about half n hour trying to find the comment on this poll, the other day. Haha.

I liked the original simply because I found that there was more emotion involved, which I actually enjoyed. However, I like Brotherhood, too. The fact is, in Brotherhood, they downplay the bit where Scar kills Nina-chimera... Ed and Al were present and couldn't do anything... In Brotherhood, they weren't even with Nina or Scar when it happened. I liked that they kept Hughes death the same in Brotherhood, as they did in the original (which wasn't very original).

I found mine xD yeah as you can tell it took about that long for me as well.

The characters where more in depth too. Yeah Brotherhood was more true to the manga.

Indeed. That is true.

Yeah, I noticed that. I don't really care, either way... I just enjoy them both. XD. Anyway, perhaps we should continue this discussion on your wall or mine, instead. Haha. I think got pretty off-topic here. XDD

I enjoyed them both as well. Yeah, that sounds like a good idea.

We are living in a join family. I have 4 sisters and one little brother. My two sisters are married and rest two sisters are in university. My little brother is in school. I am also in university. This real story is about me and my 4th one sister. She is tall and a very attractive body. She started sex from school time but I don't know with whom. We have a narrow and dark street. One night while coming home I catch my sister with my best friend in the dark corner of our street. She removed her pant(Shalwar) and was naked and lay down and my friend also removed his pant(Shalwar) and sucking my sister pussy. I watch my friend cock getting harder and my sister is moaning and telling my friend for deep sucking. I was shocked and scare that what are they doing and what if someone comes.
I was very hesitate and I looked around that if someone is Coming or not. Then my friend put his cock on my sister pussy and want to put it in my sister. But my sister was virgin and my friend cock was bigger for that. My cock also get harder then I take out my phone and take pictures of them. Then my friend start just rubbing on my sister pussy and my sister was getting wet. He cum on my sister pussy and told her that he will put his cock next time.
Then I walk on a loud voice towards my home so that they leave. On next day I watch my sister she behave different we don't know why. But I promised myself that I will talk with her today. My brother was in school and my mother and one sister went for shopping and our father was in abroad. Me and my little sister was waiting TV and I asked her do you have friendship with my best friend, she replied No. Then I share their fucking picture with her. She get scared and nervous and told me to delete it. But I didn't delete . She told me that will do anything but just delete these pictures please. I asked her to take off her clothes I want to fuck her. She slap me and told me that she is my sister and this is not correct . Then I blackmail her that if she didn't agree then I will ahow pictures to my parents then she hesitate but get agree.
She take off her clothes and I watch that my friend cum was still on my sister pussy and on her pant(Shalwar). I kiss her on lips very hard and fingering her till she start moaning. I removed my clothes and ask my sister for deep throat but she refused that she don't like it. I asked aggressivel thus time and she open her mouth and I give my cock in her mouth. She was getting hotter and tgen I lay her on sofa and start sucking her pussy. She was getting out of control and ask me for deep sucking. I took full advantages and the I want to put my cock inside her. She get scared of losing virginity but I told her that she will like it.
Then she agreed and open her legs I started putting my cock inside her. Her pussy was small so I apply some oil and the put my cock inside her. She was very hot and her boobs are very soft. I fuck her around 1 hour and cum on her little bloody pussy. She was very moaning and then I kiss her. She told me to keep it secret and I promised her.
I asked her that how many times she fet sex with my friend. She answered me that alot of time and told me that my friend was not only one to whom she get sex. She also get sex with our street shopkeeper.
I was very scared on listening it but I also like it. Then I told her to promise me that she will do sex with me and other people when I am present. She told me ok. Then she went to take bath and I went to talk to my friend about sexual relationship with my sister.