Soooo....does this mean no one is going to watch it?

"A tragical ending of a story won't make that more realistic unambiguously, because happy or optimistic ending doesn't mean it can only be false neither. Authenticity and pessimism are not equal concepts, I guess the writers tend to forget about it."

SOOOOOO true!!
But then that goes back to your other statement: "The writers have their own point of view based on their own screwed-up lives"...again, it really makes you wonder...doesn't it?

hey guys.. been reading you these days (i´m a member since last year but i have been mia in the last few months).. and i really don´t have the energy anymore to comment on the subject.. but the comment above from @true_love_huddy made me login to agree with her(or him ;P):

"Didn't we all see evolution of a character in our own lives? Haven't we experimented that a person wants to be better, wants to be healthier? Is there no liberty of will, power in our own decisions? Is it really impossible to make our lives better if we want to, if we try, if we need? I don't think so. I really think people DO CHANGE"

EXACTLY!
where´s free will?

and the Liz-something intw just turned House into this hollow doll with no sense of direction and no feelings at all.. if he was made of wood it would make sense..

there´s NO person in the world that hasn´t changed/grew AT ALL in the course of their life.. and we´ve been shown through season 1-6 all the progress that House has made to become a less miserable human being..

he´s not JUST a jerk.. no one can be solely that.. unless he´s a pshychopath..and he wouldn´t have any kind of emotion.. and if that was the case then they´re denying everything they have ever made with this show..

idk what to think anymore.. i hope not all the writers think that way.. otherwise we are definitely watching a different show than them.. and they definitely suck at being writers because they wrote everything differently than what they were trying to say..

Yes..hugs! Love to you darling dears. Edit: Welcome @KeKamc.
Nice poem @inlovewithhuddy..I bet our poet @tammy will enjoy very much. @rrennie, Your new fic..are there dream sequences? If so..I'm not up to it..ha.

Please excuse, just jumping in the middle here..with a short post...having read thru the last 4-5 pages with admiration for each of your unique voices..so much passion!

Thinking...
IF the writers want to now make a spectacle out of House's relapse/collapse, then I need them to take his journey backwards, not forwards. Unless someone (here) can explain to me what happened to Greg as a child..that would so disable his ability to change, to embrace a better life, to learn from his own mistakes? What possible deep, dark secret lies at the center of his core?

Don't try and sell the "he took vicodin" crap..because these are Doctors..who know full well that 85% of all addicts relapse. Is the show suggesting that House & Cuddy had no plan for this reality?! Indeed @fran, on what planet do they live?!!

I think of "Detox" when House screamed, "Of course I've changed!"

Countered with, Stacy telling Cameron, "House is basically the same since before the leg infarction..the pain."

So then, (imo)..if the show has a prayer of fixing this mess..then they must go back further in time and "explore" (as Shore likes to say)..House's "abuse." TPTB claim that House is "complex," then they reduce him to a simplistic slogan, "he can't change." Like many here, I don’t buy their premise..it is weak tea.

@HudJoy, Per you comment under the Liz interview link..I agree.
At this point, not sure if this so called bumpy ride is by design or is a result of mixed messages from writers who cannot agree on the humanity or romantic nature of their main character. You know the expression, "too many cooks spoil the soup."
I will watch on Monday..and see what I see.

FYI: Not watching does not register a protest, the ratings system does not work that way...you have to be a “selected viewer” beforehand.

Short summary of the last Broken-Huddy week: streams of words about the "Dead Huddy Walking". My brain is exploding, my heart is bleeding. I'm so exhausted that I'm wondering if re-watch Bombshells, so it could almost give me the coup de grace.
Just saying.

Waiting for better times....."Let them flagellate"

@Housemindfreak like the words of the vid you posted, it illustrates season 7 and the "people don't change" House's writers drum into us every day.

@fran like your pic

IF, - and I say IF because I'm still hoping it's not real, Huddy is not over, I refuse to believe it - so IF Huddy is done, I hope we, Huddies, will continue to make this couple live in our fics, in our fanarts, in our vids.

I still don't know if I'm going to watch ep 16 2morrow, I'm still heartbroken and my heart is still bleeding, but I'm still a House addicted even if my ship threatens to sink...

Did you watch this?
link

I think HL is not only a great actor but also one of the most exquisite people on earth. I appreciate very much his words in support of the writers because they deserve it, they gave us wonderful episodes. But HE gave to House a soul and with this soul I got in touch. When I watch an episode of House I'm not interested in special effects, HL is enough just to make every episode special. For this reason I do not understand why the writers lately seem more committed to groped to amaze us with fireworks rather than to let explode in a coherent manner all the nuances and emotions that House has always given us. To me this would be enough and I think all those who have followed House for 7 seasons have been won over by his depth and the capacity of the series to present true emotions. If all of us we had not invested such a large part of our emotions in House, if we did not gradually identified with his human labor and suffering ... maybe the series would have already closed their doors.
I do not like to read that the fans (any "ship" belong) are mocked by someone who feels omnipotent and can not establish with them a human touch even if virtual.
I do not like to read an interview with one of the best writers who says exactly the opposite of what is visible to everyone. Because my House has a soul, my House is not just a jerk, my House is not only damaged, my House is able to love and deserves to be loved.

We are getting closer and closer to the end of the journey of House (to my eyes and my expectations a journey of redemption) and maybe that makes us all more vulnerable, including the writers.

waiting for the next episodes :-)

Yeah I its intresting that comes out now its sounds like damage control he gave that interview in december just after bombshell was filmed I am not watching tonight may watch next week but tonight i cant to those who are good luck

@fran interesting, but we all know that Hugh is a gentleman:)

I have a thought about the sleep pills of Cuddy : maybe that's the sleep pills that House gave her at the end of "larger than life" and that he used to sedate her mother ? what do you think ? can it be that ?

oh damm i forgot about that could be but at this stage i dont know what to think

@huddycat69:

You might be onto sth there, you know. Then why showing it to us is the question?

I know we all are tensed e stressed here...so may I bright your evening with some sexiness? Or better...eye-porn?

PS The ones who feels strong enough, get a look at this XD link

No Huddy BTW :P

Bea thanks eye porn aright those eyes and he tunbler dies again thanks arlene is back in ep 20 wonder what for

Oh my....that tumblr gif..Have MERCY!! Hugh is ALL man, he is achingly sexy all sweaty and dirty with a cigarette in his mouth......I'll have me some HIM...

That interview by Hugh is part of the BOMBSHELLS interviews we got week before last, while they were on the "back lot" at Universal, where he was in costume, and talking about paying homage to Butch & Sundance, getting out of the “class room” etc.

All they did was edit out the bit about the writers and re-release it, to make it sound like Hugh is in on the whole thing. Hugh has been surprisingly quiet this season with regard to interviews, be it on set or at the odd function he attends, when he stays longer than a hour.
Could be His Lordship is tired and is ready to go home to his Mrs and his children.

Perhaps they think that hearing him talk the writers UP, the fans will be less annoyed, because he is after all our focus.

I smacks of DAMAGE CONTROL....

I mean what can he say? He has to be complimentary to the writers whether he wants to or not. He can't go calling them a bunch or "wankers" now can he?

Hugh is a frighteningly intelligent man, make NO mistake he has noticed the deterioration of the writing over the last year or so! As Sara Hess said, he is a writer. SO HE KNOWS!

Hugh is too much a gentleman to get up in their faces and tell them he is unhappy or that he feels the quality of the writing has slipped, or that he disagrees with the direction they are moving in. He has said so himself, he is a people pleaser he'd rather say YES and suffer in silence, than rock the boat.

More’s the pity!!

He's NOT going to win an Emmy with the CRAP they are giving him now!

Hey all! I think ive decided that im going to tivo the episode (just in case im one of those "select viewers") and then watch the episode a little later tonight. I still cant believe that this time a week ago we were dancing around and so excited about the dream sequences and such...it seems surreal now.

@Bea thanks for posting your pic! ;) any sexy Hugh makes the day better!

@huddycat and @rrennie i think that the reason they showed the pills was actually supposed to be one of the first "clues." Like it was when she started doubting and having the candy dreams, remember that was when she woke up from the sitcom dream (the 1st one) and there was no candy in it. So more like a foreshadowing...i dont think it would be more than that.

I myself wish we could just skip tonights episode completely (its gonna be painful...i can feel it) and just jump right to 7x17. Not only is OW coming back, but something big is going to happen. And im DYING to know what it is. I'm also just dying for some hope, some good news, something GOOD to happen out of this.

That blind item that aussilo has just posted is scaring the crap out of me anyway laurie i agree with you i thought it was damage control as well its just weird with the timing

@HJ Hun you and me both. I am not watching this again until something positive happens. I will come here and see what the girls are saying first.
I stand corrected but in the sitcom scene House was chewing gum, he had blown a bubble as he entered the living room!! Maybe not candy candy but still something sweet.

And then 7x17 I have a horrible feeling House is going to rush into a reboud relationship and that is what the gathering at his apartment is all about!!
I remember reading here GY tweeted that Huddy won't get back together, "because one of them...well it's complicated."

Could that be the only piece of accurate info the slug gave us before they slapped a muzzel and leash on him?

Guys anyone else notice Houses smile when he opened the door to Cuddy? It was the exact smle he gave her at the end of "Now What."

It was not the smile of a happy man. THAT was the smile of a VERY insecure man!!

Shoulder porn!!!!! link

Bea you are shameless you know that lol i can just die again

i know we used to be excited and now trainwreck coming

@huddyfantatic- Thanks Hun I read it. Some of those posts are funny as &%#@ !! Made me giggle....


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Truth be told at this point I would be okay if it was CUDDY!! But first we need to see if they are renewed....

I am going to bed it is 23h08 and when I wake up it will all be over!! I have a hectic day tomorrow so there will be not time to wonder about HOUSE...

I'm done wondering about "Bombshells" for now & watching tonight will be helpful to see what the fallout will look like. I need a new perspective..and to learn how House-Cuddy-Wilson will deal with this tense situation..perhaps spinning out of control.

The bull rider topic is probably a good metaphor for what is happening.
It doesn't get much bumpier than that..sitting on top of a mad bull when they open the chute..or getting thrown off. House got thrown & in the promo he seems like he is pretending to be "okay," kidding himself, while heading straight to rock bottom. Yikes. I'm scared too..for all of them.

2 hours and a half to apocalypse...I feel like I'm waiting for doomsady XD

I need a little downtime before processing episode 16 and then next week I'm at the beach Monday and Tuesday. I'd better have fun-- so no dark House thoughts are allowed for me for at least 10 days. Only sunshine, mindless paperbacks where everything ends happily, and the only pain comes from not wearing enough sunscreen ;).

@LL they can NOT kill Cuddy. They just cant. and they cant kill wilson either. doing that would destroy the premise of the show. at least...a large part of it. jumping the shark.

i would DIE on the inside if either of them did. they are 2 of my favorite television show characters ever. ive had to deal with enough of my favorite characters from "24" dying i dont need it here :'(

i too have this awful dreading feeling about tonights episode...i will be tivoing it and then watching it later with my friend when she gets off work. shes convinced that wilsons going. ugh! we just dont need anymore bad news right now!

FUCK I HATE THEM! THE EP WAS DEVASTATINGLY SAD, UNNERVING!!! HOUSE PISSED ME OFF LIKE IN HIS OLD TIMES! CUDDY AND WILSON'S SCENE WAS HEARTBREAKING! THE WAY HUGH ACTED THE WHOLE THING WAS...I HAVE NO WORDS! THE WAY HE SNAPPED AT CUDDY! I WISH I WOULD KILLS SOMEONE RANDOMLY WHEN HE WAS NAKED IN BED WITH ALL THOSE WOMEN! SO MUCH HUGH NAKEDNESS!!!!HUGH WEARING SUNGLASSES WAS TOO TO BE WATCHED WITHOUT PROTECTION! THE FINAL SCENE ALMOST KILLED ME OF HEART ATTACK! HILSON WAS AMAZING!

FUCK I HATE THEM! THIS EP WAS SO GOOD AND SO....AAAAA! I HATE THEM FOR MAKING ME LOVING THEM TOO MUCH!! FUCK!!!

@Bea, I know you are torn, but equally amazed. Wilson was spot on!

I think this is my favorite episode for the series..thus far.
"Out of the Chute" was absolutely rivieting, compelling, heartbreaking..perfect. I was glued to every single second, & the song when House was sitting on his hotel bed, "My mind holds the key," is utterly haunting and true.

We can't unring the bell..the story moves on. Right now, I can push Huddy aside for awhile, knowing it is still a vital, driving part of this, and let the show get back to House-centric..it's okay. G'night.

OK, Hugh was un-fucking-believably hot in this episode. Also, we got confirmation that when House told Cuddy that if it came between choosing between being a great doctor and choosing her he would always choose her that he meant it. He was a GREAT doctor in this episode even if he wasn't around the patient a lot. He impressed the hell out of Masters, and he didn't care anymore. He was bored or just not feeling anything, but he definitely was not happy about it, not bragging about it, not saying anything about how great he was. He just looked, sad.

So now he really does have nothing. The "one true" thing that he had is still there skills wise but not emotionally. It's not a love or an obsession anymore. He doesn't have Cuddy anymore and as usual he's stonewalling Wilson.

He's angry at Cuddy. Cuddy is feeling guilt ridden and even tells Wilson it's her fault but she's not changing her mind.

Anyways, House is in such an emotional hole that basically he's thrill seeking in this episode just to feel anything. There's hookers galore and then the ending...holy fuck! What an ending.

The promos for next week already have people over at LJ in a tizzy since it looks like in order to get back at Cuddy House is going to marry one of his hookers. Ooops. I don't think he's going to go through with it. I haven't seen the promo.

There was one Huddy scene dealing with a medical issue and House basically angrily cuts her short. I don't think Cuddy wanted to get into a medical show down with House, so she just let him walk away. It was frustrating.

Not sure how I feel about the episode. It had its moments for sure but it was also really tough to see House like that. I fucking hate David Shore right now.

I just want to hug House and tell DS to fuck off. :(

I want to say sth else before I go to bed. Some are complaining again and thinking again, the didn't explored Huddy sufficently this season. I agree on some aspects but also think this show is NOT about Huddy. I mean HOUSE is the focus. They weren't supposed to explore the relationship but the way HOUSE related to it and the way it affected HIM.

This being said...

This ep also provided some interesting things to think about. Like one of the major issues and concerned fof House: Cuddy VS his edge. And it's pretty clear he doesn't give a crap to be back on V and be a genius if he can't have her.

It's been heartbreakin seeing him with so many women, wasting himself over and over again. But as someone nailed it around here a few weeks ago, apparently the journey isn't done. He has to learn to love for real. Feel pain and go through it. Be ready to sacrifice himself for her....much more than he had done up to now.

I liked the fact that they used the Cuddy and Wilson's scenes to voice our own fears. Wilson basically throw at her our very complaines, line after line. And she voiced her needs more clearly.

I suffered seeing House snapping at her like that. I suffered seeing him unable to cope with his pain. And I almost died of sadness with Wilson in the end (after the heart attack).

I invite you to trust the writers and the TPTB at this point. This ep felt so unbelievingly good I'm at loss for words. I hate this show and love it, insanely at the same time. Maybe some of you won't like it, cause you'll find all the hookers stuff a little too mucho. On my mind that is classic House...as Wilson said, avoiding the issue and numbing himself out as he can.

But nothing is working so far...

Bright note: Hugh was hotter than ever. Devastated or sad or whatever, he just shines.

One last thing. I loved the parallelism with the POTW. I mean, it's the other way around now. Once what he loved the most and couldn't live without were puzzles; his rational mind, his edge. Now it's all about her. He can't be complete anymore without Cuddy. That doesn't give him any pleasure. He's getting selfdistructive trying to numb himself out in every way possible cause as you said @hughlisafan she's come to be worth losing his edge. Hugh played it wonderfully. You could get it all by his eyes.

This episode truly brough my hopes back to life.I'm sure they're gonna be together in the next episode.He know truly knows that she is his frist priority...his true addiction.Even if he didn't admit it his world wasn't just shades of grey anymore.He's going to do anything to get her back.Plus we know from the spoilers that she tells Wilson she regreted.This is gonna be one hell of a make uo...

@rrennie made me thought about sth. Remember the season promo pics? The clownish stuff? Well...she made me think all those allegedly funny scene with House having fun in the most incredible ways...were sad and funny in a clowinish kind of way. Like pathetic...and this isn't gonna work you see? You following me? Until he grew up and gets ready to face pain and accept it...REAL PAIN, nothing of what he does it's gonna work. And she can't be with a man like this.

He gotta adress this. He gotta learn adressing stuff. And Wilson's been telling him since the Itch...

I'm with you rrennie. I'm glad I didn't watch, I enjoyed my Monday night to myself and spending time with my dad.

I am still standing firm on forgetting the rest of the season. All of the episodes were poorly done IMO, nothing creative at all. The emotions, actions, everything was crap.

I blame no one but the writers and producers. They HAVE NOT been up to their game. They've done better in the past.

Back for a bit...

Well @Bea, I agree with all that you write. "Cuddy did voice her needs clearly," her words felt real & true to me, including her admission, "It is my fault."

I respect your opinion @rennie..sorry that the episode didn't work for you. I know what I like, and I really liked this episode..no second thoughts whatsover.

IMO, this was excellent writing, direction & set location work. Great acting from the bull to the hotel concierge, the bartender, the potw, & the team was solid..due to the writing. Note: The slow motion bull..reminding me of "The Raging Bull," and then the repeat slow motion moment in the bar..when House couldn't take it anymore..& so plunged from his balcony perch to release his pain it had to go somewhere..just like the raging bull.

The broken, bleeding heart motif was strong throughout but subtle. The little childhood song the POTW sang out of snyc..that stopped House in his tracks, his face winced in pain, "Bring Back My Bonnie To Me," I loved that moment too.

@mysusp, Have a great time at the beach.

I am glad too that i watched the episode. because i actually felt a little bit better about it than i thought i did. I'm with @BH and @Bea as much as i want to hate the writers profusely....the after effects made sense.

@rrennie i hope to see you back soon hon :( im really sorry that you hated it and i will really miss all your wonderful insights.

Why i liked it:
1)As mentioned by @Bea i love that Wilson voiced our fears. He literally was so frustrated and upset with cuddy and was asking why give him another chance, etc etc. this is exactly how we were feeling and i like that that was addressed.
2) I like that cuddy explained herself: we get to see cuddy feeling guilty, feeling bad, admitting her fault in it...thank you. that gives me gratification. and you know what else? she admitted that she LOVED him. if we still have that to go on...
3)Wilson was still there, being the friend and trying his best. thank goodness.
4) the writing of this episode was better. it was heartbreaking and painful, but it made sense.

however, this whole house marrying the hooker thing...he invites cuddy. thats so cruel...is he trying to make her feel as bad as him? idk but that part did upset me and i hope that he apologizes and they get on a better footing.

So I've already mentioned several times that I don't watch or read spoilers but just based on this episode there are two places that I think TPTB are going:

1) It's obvious House's old self-destructive behaviours are not working for him now. He wasn't enjoying anything in this episode but he was defiantly trying to show everyone that he was. He looked confused like he expected this stuff to work but it completely failed him instead. Vicodin didn't help, the hookers didn't help, solving a case didn't help, he was working real hard at it all too. I can't see House going down this path for very long, even he knows that his old methods of coping with pain, of looking for a distraction is not working in the way it used to for him. I don't know where he goes from here.

They've basically written House into a dark corner. At this point, he is so far down the emotional tube that suicide is a believable option for him. I mean, what do you do if you lose your coping skills? Or, no longer have faith in them even if those coping skills were destructive in the first place? How do you face pain when you can't show that pain to anyone not even to yourself? Cuddy wants him to share her pain? Holy fuck! He can't even share his own pain with himself! How is he supposed to face hers? There is only two ways out now: House either confronts whatever it is that drives him to emotionally shield himself to such an extent, or he kills himself and the show ends with House as a tragic figure.

A couple of years ago when people were speculating about the series end some people brought up House's death as a series finale and I hated that idea. I still hate that idea because I want this series to end with House's happiness or at least the hope for happiness. I love this character so much that I don't want him to die like this, in misery and in pain and alone. But at least now, his death is a believable option. *sigh*


2) He DOESN'T want to be brilliant anymore. It's becoming as much a burden for him as anything else. Medicine/puzzles don't make him happy anymore either. He's angry at Cuddy so things are not going to be going back to what they were pre-relationship.


I can't or won't believe that they are going to kill off House. So, if the season finale is not about his death then I'm thinking House quits medicine and leaves PPTH or just leaves PPTH. I do think this is going somewhere in that direction though. It is now obvious we are still in the midst of House's journey. And, that this, like HuddyBea said, is HIS story, and not a Huddy story even though Cuddy plays a large part in his life. Again, I don't know where it goes from here.

I'm praying though that the journey he is on is one of self-discovery and not one of suicide or "accidental" suicide through his self-destructive behaviour. Right now, it's really hard to see which way it's going to go.

Why you gotta ruin my mood @hlf? just when i was starting to feel better about it....*sighs* :p

Honestly though, i don't think that him or cuddy is leaving. i read a spoiler that made it sound like neither of them are going anywhere and that they are going to have to face their fears together. of course, that doesn't mean that it still couldnt happen at the end of the season but that doesnt seem likely.

im thinking that something major will happen. at this point, im starting to wonder if cuddy WILL be the character that gets killed at the end of the season...ugh. i really really REALLY hope tht things dont get any worse than they have. idk if i could survive that...

okay--I checked in before going to sleep :) So thanks for the heads up on the episode. I haven't seen it yet but we all know even if House does go through with it for revenge it's not like he and hooker lady are going to sit on the couch together watching tv and washing dishes together in his apartment. I don't know, I don't forsee a reconciliation anytime soon, but it is encouraging to think that at least they are on good terms in episode 20. I don't think he'd come with her and her mom somewhere unless they were at least on friendly terms. I'll watch the episode sometime this week and then catch 17 after my trip. PS I TOLD YOU that Kaplow is the best writer ;) Half Wit, Under My Skin :)

Hi @ HuddyJoy :) It was worth losing some work sleep to check in about the episode girls.

Darn, I really wanted to not watch this episode, but I couldn't help it. My House detox lasted for about as long as it took me to type my last post XD

To be honest, I'm not sure what to think about this episode. I know what I didn't hate it, although I didn't like it as a whole either. I fell in love with Wilson for forcing both House and Cuddy to SAY things, and I went a little crazy at some point and started laughing hysterically, but all in all I just got a weird vibe from the episode.

Thinking about it, I realize that it's probably because I expected the episode to be a lot darker. Instead, we get something that may be partly portrayed along House's way of thinking. The sunny weather in the beginning, with that hilarious bellboy, the sumptuous breakfast, the gorgeous women...it was all so bright and "shiny" as Hugh would say, that it's obvious that it's just a thin cover for what is underneath. House is able to avoid avoiding the pain somewhat by overindulging himself, but we soon get to see him realize that this is far from enough.

The last scene broke my heart. It was partly the song, partly Wilson's expression, and partly the utter desperation that radiated out of that man chugging beer in the pool, and trying in vain to forget something that he will never succeed in forgetting.

Also, for some reason, the one Huddy scene was so unsatisfactory. There wasn't even any of that angst that I anticipated. Just...it was like the 15 episodes before it never happened.

I think that most of this ep felt really surreal to me. We've come so far since the Season 7 premiere, that to have House suddenly back to hookers and Vicodin is too much for my brain to handle. I don't know if it's shock or denial or a mixture of both, but my brain has separated this episode from the whole rest of the show. I can't even think of Bombshells as part of the same show as Out of the Chute. In my mind, there are now two shows called House, both so drastically different that I can no longer link them together. We've gotten to know the happy House and Cuddy so well, it seems, that the characters I saw tonight were no longer the same people.

This may mostly be because I only started watching House religiously in Season 7. So, basically, the whole show has changed for me. When I watched House in Season 6, I didn't care about the characters, and had no emotional connection to Huddy at all. But, after Help Me and the long summer break, I became really obsessed. So I've never experienced this before, this non-existence of Huddy when I'm still so in love with them. Frankly, I don't even know how to react.

I suppose there is a certain amount of cruel irony in all of this. Excited about the musical and House-getting-worried in Bombshells? No problem, let's ruin all your expectations with a break-up! Excited because episode 16 has an S in the rating? Surprise, it's because House hires a bajillion hookers! Excited because GY tweeted "[W]edding bells" and despite yourself you hope it's Huddy? Hah, how dumb are you? Of course House isn't marrying Cuddy, he's marrying a hooker just to spite Cuddy! Isn't life just dandy.

Man, I can't believe I let myself get drawn into this again. Then again, I guess I was already in too deep to back out. I have to stay for the ride so I can deserve to see the ending. In some kind of twisted way, I think we earn some kind of medal for courage if we can get through these next eps, which are certainly going to be pretty stormy weather, as Kaplow said.

That being said, WE BETTER GET A FUCKING AMAZING FINALE. The rest of this season will probably be one of the most painful times in the history of the show for Huddy shippers. So, I'm putting all my expectations on the finale, even though I will probably be sorely disappointed. But he'll, WE DESERVE A FINALE THAT WILL BE WORTH THE NEXT 7 EPISODES.

@BH:

"The slow motion bull..reminding me of "The Raging Bull," and then the repeat slow motion moment in the bar..when House couldn't take it anymore.."

@BH that sequence gave me shivers really. And I know only some very naive part of me was afrai he could hurt himself, but that's not the point IMO. The point is as you said that he couldn't take it anymore. Boredom. The lack of thrill. The lack of happiness. Not having your whole life ahead of yourself, but just a limited amount of time, to make things right. Grow up and be a man.
House is still in denial, sadly...
And I agree on the writing too :) I loved this ep and well, Kaplow once again is one of my favs writers on this show.

"The broken, bleeding heart motif was strong throughout but subtle. The little childhood song the POTW sang out of snyc..that stopped House in his tracks, his face winced in pain"

Couldn't have said it better. I felt this moment with my whole heart: I experienced a real heart-wrenching pain. And once again Hugh with this amazing acting conveyed all the pain and the desperate attempt to escape it, wonderfully with just a few subtle looks and some grimaces.

@hughlisafan:

"He looked confused like he expected this stuff to work but it completely failed him instead. Vicodin didn't help, the hookers didn't help, solving a case didn't help"

Exactly. It's like Nolan session therapy all over again. He's trying to cope as he has always done. Fogertting all about it, avoiding the issue and going back to his old self. But I find interesing what Cuddy told Wilson, even if it sounds obvious: they can't go backwards. Neither with e-o or separately. For better of for worse they are an item. Either this or they are done. And House needs to adress his pain, directly. Facing it. I'm not sure V is gonna be an issue this time. A real addiction I mean. And as you said after a ep like this, some things started to make sense.

A girl sent me mail in which she explained to me she thought the basis for these upcoming eps were put down in Two Stories already and that she thinks it's gonna get worse before getting better. I must say I agree wholeheartedly at this point. But I also think, thank God that Huddy is far from over, and that the whole "campaign" was aimed to win the haters back and keep us quiet without spoiling us on the finale or a possible season 8. Like some sort of political move, if you know what I mean....

@HLforever:

"Also, for some reason, the one Huddy scene was so unsatisfactory. There wasn't even any of that angst that I anticipated"

This is funny. How come you expected sth different? XD Tell me, which season 5 scene you remember being SATISFACTORY and not terribly FRUSTRATING? ;)

Side note:
Let me jump him XD XD XD XD

You wait and se...I'm gonna make so many HD caps you're gonna ask for mercy XD

I know I'm a pain in the ass but I also wanted to point out the wonderful song selection....the first song This Night by Black Lab have some great tune and such conveys such a dark, sorrowful mood. link. Besides the lyrics talk about having a darkness inside of you, a beast, you can't control right now. You gotta have it your way.

There are things I have done
There's a place I have gone
There's a beast and I let it run
Now it's running my way

....

There's a game that I play
There are rules I had to break
There's mistakes that I've made
But I've made them my way

Again, those lyrics beautifully covey the sense of a struggle against his inner demons which is far to be winned.

And the final one? link

I'm standing on a stage
Of fear and self-doubt
It's a hollow play
But they'll clap anyway

Again, the clowinish attitude of a character on the edge of breaking down once and for all. Pathetically making a fool himself, until he leanrs sufference needs to be feel and undergo by a slow healing process, which means growing up =,)

Ok, I'm shutting up now. Just one last thing. Kaplow's interview link

I haven't read yet all your comments, I'll do it in a few minutes, but I need to post this:

@Hughlisafan I agree with you : usually House was obsessed with his medical case, with the puzzle they were for him, he was completely absorbed by the medical enigma, and in this ep (I mean ep16), it doesn't interest him anymore, he seems to be bored with this new case, although it sounds good and interesting.

Something broke in him, that's obvious, and we all know what and why. Without Cuddy nothing matters anymore, life has no sense, life isn't fun, life is just boring. At the end I think that he's aware of that, that's why he jumps of the balcony of his room. But he jumps voluntarily in the swimming pool, he didn't want to kill himself, just experiment the idea of his death, maybe because - and I hope that's the reason- deep inside of him, deep in his heart, he knows that Cuddy loves him, he knows that he loves her, and he hopes - yeah! this man can hope, I'm sure - he hopes that one day he and Cuddy will be back together and that this time it will last.

This ep wasn't bad at all, but there were too many hookers, too much debauchery on behalf of House, too much is too much! it gave me nausea and I have the same feeling as @rrennie about this point.

I love the Wilson / Cuddy scenes : really well done, bravo RSL and LE, great actor job! For me, they were the best part of the ep with the Hilson's ones. The rest, especially House and the hookers, I dislike it. Just my opinion.

I can't help watch the promo of ep 17 and read some tweets about it (addicted are not able to resist easily to their addiction;)), and if the scene they show is gonna happen, I really think I won't watch the show anymore, it will be too much for my broken heart, I know I shouldn't react like this, but Huddy was too important to me, and to see House with other women than Cuddy is simply unbearable for me.

Just one thing more :

Cuddy : I love him. And I know he loves me.
Cuddy : But I can't fix his problem, I am his problem

Too heartbreaking...

@HLforever totally agree with you

I've just watched the full episode, and well, I cannot tell I didn't like it at all...There were some scenes that really impressed me, moved me and made me think.

The Wilson/Cuddy-dialogues meant a gift for me, because as you mentioned it too, Wilson's words reflect our own fears as well, and it hepled me a little bit to deal with the frustration. Cuddy's response was deep and meaningful, but really scared me. I wouldn't say I'm mad at her, but the fact is fact, she leaved him because as she admits she had been wrong believing she could accept House as he is. I would shout the same accusation at her face: you told him you didn't want him to change. Is she the same strong woman who loved House unconditionally? I wanted to believe so much that it exists...already I'm disappointed, sad and frustrated. I know she is a human being who needs a reliable supportive man besides her, but as I see it right now, she has just given up...Is he really that monster that the writers want to show us? Is he really a man who can't be a true lover, a caring human, in a relative harmony with his screwed-up self? Has Cuddy forgotten that he is the most incredible man she'd ever known? As she mentioned in "Unwritten", she has never been happier. So "now what"? That's it? That's all? She gives up and leaves the man who means so much to her.

The simple fact I can't forget is that she loves him and he loves her. If love exists, in my humble opinion, giving up so soon is a huge mistake against our own fate. At this point I'm very pessimistic about a possible Huddy-reunion, and I experiment that the writers try to destroy so actively everything they built before...

As for the promo for the next episode, it's crazyness itself. I don't think it will really happen but the writers seem to enjoy the great suffer we have and have masochistic joy over House's relapse. I have absolutely no idea what they are planning for the next 7 episodes, but they are going to drive us crazy if it continues...

not seen the ep and i wont be watching it but i have a theory about the next ep remember season 5 when house hired that actress wh prentended to be dead what if he does something simlar here only this time pttending to get maried to piss uddy ok maybe a reaching but i can see hi doing that ataully

I have a question guys...maybe I'm missing sth here, lost in transaltion probably, but why Out of the Chute? Thoughts? I mean was that related to the POTW? I couldn't follow the medical case very well (actually I couldn't give a crap :P I was just as distracted as House was) but does that title related to House too?

I really wanted to dislike this episode (esp hookers 1-7) but truthfully there were many really good parts and i was holding my breath in complete impatienece for several scenes dying to know what is going to happen.

First, House's saddness. HL is stunning. The H/Cuddy scene, his anger and bitterness as he stared right at her the whole time had my heart breaking for him.

Maybe I'm imagining things but did House have the same blue button down shirt on the whole epi? The same one he was wearing when Cuddy broke up with him....

perhaps he went staight to the hotel after the breakup makes sense but like i said i havent watched it so i dont know

May I interrupt this very interesting discussion for some....ehm...just explosive thing I found on tumblr XD I mean "1000 different ways to die whatching the same sequence over and over again" XD

link

Bea...you seriously want to kill us....Especially now....